5 Year Old Boy Still Having Trouble Sleeping

Updated on October 21, 2013
V.S. asks from Coatesville, PA
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My now 5 yr. old son has had trouble sleeping (falling asleep, staying asleep) since birth. My husband or I must lay down with him after reading books until he falls asleep. Then, he wakes up 1-2 times a night due to "bad dreams" and comes into our bed. He is a restless sleeper so he is not easy to sleep with in a bed. He is very bright and has a vivid imagination so I am not surprised that his little mind must be going all night long. He tells me he has bad dreams about different dinasours - I assure him that are all extinct. But again, this is not new and has been going on forever, so I am sure it is not just about a dinasour book he saw. I am thinking of buying a day bed to put in our room for him if he should wake up but I don't know if this is really helping or hindering him. Does he need sleep specialist? Hypnosis? Is this just normal still for this age? I don't know. He had his tonsils and adenoids out last year, so sleep apnea is no longer an issue. Any thoughts on how to help him?

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P.G.

answers from Dallas on

My son is a sensory seeker (sensory processing issue) and needs additional input to sleep at night. He didn't sleep well till he was 6 years old. My sister, bless her fantastic sewing skills, made him a weighted blanket and he's been sleeping so much better. Don't know if that might help.

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L.R.

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Please do not get a "sleep aid" for him if that means medication. Do not mess with his body's own biological sleep patterns at this age, even though his sleep patterns are not ideal for the adults in his household. Consider carefully whether this is more about HIS sleep or your own lack of sleep.

Does he seem rested enough in the daytime? Does he have what seems like normal energy and attention? Is he flagging and sleepy and grumpy-tired every day? If the answer is yes, he's rested, he's energetic, and no, he does not seem unusually worn out every day -- then he is getting adequate sleep though you are not. If he is not getting enough sleep to be attentive and energetic during the day, and he is indeed keeling over with tiredness in the afternoons, I would see the doctor for advice. But if not -- then try not to let your own tiredness make you feel there's something wrong with him. Yes, it's legitimate that you're tired because of him and it's not wrong to want a resolution, but the truth is that kids' sleep patterns change ALL their lives. He may start to sleep like a log soon only to start night waking again in a few years. You cannot control another person's sleep, or their toileting, or their eating. This is exactly why sleep, toilet training and food issues are the ones that drive parents insane: We can't force a child to eat, sleep or poop at times or in ways that work for us adults. They are in control.

But they CAN be trained if the adults are patient enough and don't let it become a battle of wills.

Some things to consider:

Does he have a very, very consistent bedtime routine that helps him wind down, and that lets him know he can expect exactly the same steps toward bed every single night? Consistency is important. TV should never be part of the routine, ever; the flickering images of even the calmest kiddie shows still stimulate kids' brains too much. Be sure he gets the same routine every night, and start it well before lights out time -- if you start a bedtime routine 10 minutes before lights out, that is not nearly enough time for some kids to get relaxed.

How does he react if you leave him (after the routine) and do not stay in his bed until he is asleep? If you have done this all his life, he has never learned how to go to sleep on his own; that is best learned when kids are much younger, so you will need to re-train him on this, but that does not mean he has to endure tearful meltdowns every night.

When it is daytime and things are calm, talk to him about the new bedtime routine. You will read to him and stay in the room after lights out for 10 minutes then you WILL leave. If that scares him, say that you will check on him 10 minutes after you leave. He likely will stay awake for that -- so do check 10 minutes later, silently; stick your head in the door but do not walk into the room or go sit on his bed. Let him see that you do keep your word about checking.

Let this go on for weeks if you need to. Simple. Calm. Same thing every night, no exceptions. Do not talk to him or engage him or let him start chatting when you check in his room. Tell him, "No talking, it's sleep time." Then go.

If he gets up then or in the night: He doesn't stay in your bed. Silently get up, walk him to his room (guide him with a gentle but firm hand on his shoulder) and silently guide him to his bed, cover him swiftly and leave. Don't sit down or lie down until he's asleep again. When he gets up again -- you get up, silently walk him back. Over and over and over if you must. He is testing you; do not get angry or fuss at him or lecture; do not talk at all except maybe to say "Night is for sleeping" the first time. No words after that. You will feel angry and tired but get up and walk him back silently EVERY time without arguing or chiding him. He has to learn that getting up in the night does not get him the reward of sleeping with you. If he cries or says he had a bad dream, tell him "I'm so sorry you had a bad dream" and return him to bed.

This is a really common way to teach kids to stay in bed, but it's a process normally done when kids are much younger than your son. So be warned that you might need a long time to retrain him this way. And you and your husband have to both be on board with the silent and repeated return. Talking to him in the night is a reward, to him. You are NOT punishing him for getting up, but you are taking away any interaction or any time in your bed.

Basically, you don't need meds, hypnosis or a sleep specialist; you need to retrain him with a routine that is usually done with toddlers, so it will be more effort for you at this point. Don't punish him or treat this as "he's being naughty on purpose" because he isn't -- he only knows how to sleep the way he's always slept, and he can't help that, and it's going to be upsetting for him at first to find out that he has to learn to sleep a new way. But you as the adults have to teach him a new way that works for all of you.

And it's not a problem or a flaw if he has a vivid imagination either. It's common for kids' minds to take off when they're supposed to be sleeping and the kids can't stop thinking. This is why a routine that's consistent and long enough can help.

Find books by the "Supernanny" Jo Frost. She has good info about getting kids to stay in bed.

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T.S.

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Since he is so imaginative, support him in coming up with his own solutions to help him sleep through the night. Sometimes our children just need permission to imagine solutions as much as they imagine problems. Ask him to tell you a story about how he would be protected from the dinosaurs. Ask him to tell you a story about how a little boy was able to sleep all the way through the night deeply and safely. You will be amazed at his problem solving abilities if you can just steer him into that direction rather than focusing on the problem all the time.

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S.G.

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I would get him every book, movie and documentary I could find about dinosaurs and read/watch them with him until he gets past his fear.

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G.B.

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I'd talk to the doc about a sleep aid. Really, if I was getting up several times per night I'd want him to sleep all night a few nights in a row just so I could sleep!

I do feel for you though. It took a long time for my grandson to sleep all night. He sleeps like I do and that means he doesn't move all night. So he's easy to just pull in bed with us.

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A.G.

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It sounds like a little more like a habit now that he's 5.

Try exposing him to more daylight, which helps regulate the body's timeclock. So when its dark, the body (and brain!) will shut down and go into sleep mode quicker.

L.A.

answers from Austin on

I have been hearing a lot of positive feed back about "weighted Blankets" helping children sleep through the night, especially sensory children.

I even have an old school friend who has restless leg syndrome and she said a weighted blanket has really helped her too.

You can probably make one, or I know that these are the ones, the moms and grandmothers have been talking about on my Facebook page.

http://www.mosaicweightedblankets.com

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C.B.

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You say "sleep apena is no longer an issue" but I wonder if, when it was, he got into the habit of waking up and now that's all it is - the habit. I would encourage him to stay in bed and try to go back to sleep. Or he can call you and you go to him but he stays in bed.

I find that if I wake up one night to use the bathroom, the next time and every night thereafter I'll wake up to go. But, if I stay in bed and don't get up, the next night I won't wake up. Habit.

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Leigh is probably right. You need to retrain him.

If you don't have the stamina to do it, don't make it comfortable for him in your room. You can put a sleeping bag down for him to crawl into but he can't sleep with you in your bed or wake you up. At some pt, this will seem silly, even to him.

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S.G.

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It looks like you have created a habit, by staying with him till he falls asleep, that worked when he was little, but now he is 5. How about starting a wind down routine. Like no activties an hour before bed, maybe a organic tea made for children to drink with some soft ocean music, before bed. Reading a book before bed sometimes for certain children , just gets there imagination going.
As for the bad dreams , put a little lamp & a big note pad/with crayon next to his bed. Tell him when he has a bad dream to draw the bad dream out. This will get him to express and get those bad dreams out of his mind. Tell him that in the morning when you get up you will talk about those bad dreams.
Big mistake getting a daybed put in your room.
He just a kid, what happening is normal. I went thur it with my son. He out grew it. When my son drew out his bad dreams it helped out a lot. He is 13 now and still writes down his bad dreams or ideas that he comes up with when he is trying to sleep.

N.G.

answers from Dallas on

Could be a sensory thing, and I love the answer Patricia gave. A weighted blanket may help.

My other thought is that now, at age 5, you've created an environment that allows him to think that getting up and disrupting the household every time he wakes up is OK because you've been allowing this all along. I think at 5 it's long past time to start encouraging him to self soothe at night. Walk him back to bed and explain to him that the family is sleeping now and he can't wake ya'll up every time he wakes. If you put a daybed in your room, be prepared to deal with this issue for years to come. I value my sleep way too much to even consider such a thing, but I don't envy you for having to deal with this issue. My kids have always been great sleepers, ever since they were newborns.

Also in my opinion I don't think sleep aids should be an option at this point (in response to other responders). You haven't exhausted all options.

Oh, I almost forgot. Essential oils can help with this. Diffusing oils in his room (aromatherapy) can calm him and keep him asleep. You might look into that.

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