Any Ideas for Treating 4Yr Old ADHD

Hi C.,

I do have one very strong recommendation for you. Contact Little Giant Steps immediately. I have heard so many people talk about this place and heard wonderful thiings. Sometimes kids who are diagnosed with dyslexia or ADHD, are misdiagnosed, or some of their symptoms can be lessened greatly by the things Little Giant Steps recomends. It is hard for me to explain because I am not the most knowledgeable on it all, but trust me, just call them and see what they say. I think they might be able to help you a great deal. I have 3 kiddos all just regular kids, but one of my girls processes differently than the other two. Through Little Giants I have learned there are somethings I can do to help her process better. Good Luck!

Tamara

I feel you pain. I had twin boys who were diagnosed with ADHD when they were 4. First let me tell you that you can get through this. Mine are now 18 and such blessings. We were very lucky and they were able to be treated with the first medication they were given. They were given Adderall. It worked well for them all the way to high school. The dosage was adjusted through the years. I know there are a lot of new medications now so I know that they don't seem to use Adderall as much. The psychiarist we used was Dan Steinfink in Dallas. Good luck and you can feel free to contact me at anytime for moral support. My e-mail address is ____@____.com. Blessings to you.

Hi C.,

My nephew has inattentive ADD. My sister sent me this link yesterday.

http://www.second-hand-news.com/index.html

As far as doctors, I'm no help, my sister lives in Chicago.

Although my 4yo boy hasn't yet been diagnosed as ADHD, he does show many signs from some recent diagnostic tests he had. Through a list of books recommended, I found one that I thought was an excellent help with behavioral issues. It wasn't over the top, repetitive, or condescending. A great read with some good strategies and insight, you may want to pick up "Setting Limits with your Strong-Willed Child", by Robert J. MacKenzie, Ed.D. It sure doesn't address ADHD specifically but I've found it to be a tremendous help in responding and setting limits to inappropriate behaviors I've encountered with my son. And best of all, the recommendations helped! I wish you the best in your search for help!

Since my earlier response [below] to C.'s request, I have had emails asking me to post the info my daughter has for an ADHD doctor. My daughter's response [with more details]to C. is "Melinda M" The doctor is:

Dr Young - web site - docyoung.com

He is a peditrician that has changed his practice to treat children with ADHD full time. Some of the parents have even asked him to treat them. My daughter and granddaughter are VERY pleased with him and his office

FIRST RESPONSE:
My daughter has recently found a great ADHD doctor. [There doesn't seem to be that many qualified ones around. She used one doctor for a year until she got completely fed up with him and his office] So, after extensive research, she found a doctor that has been great.

I am going to try to forward your request to Melinda [my daughter] if you do not hear from her today please email me and I will send her your email address

J.

I just had a conversation with a mom the other day who took her two kids to Jonathon Walker in Dallas. He is a neurologist and does not use medicaton. He uses neurotherapy and claims to have a 90% success rate. He is an MD. He does have website. She also told me most insurance companies cover the therapy.

Hello C.,

I'm sorry to hear you're so frustrated. Has your son been tested for allergies? I remember seeing something on Oprah about the boy that was allergic to chocolate. they would give him some and he would instantly become an emotional/physical tornado and would start hitting, screaming, etc. It's like he was possessed. when they gave him the 'antidote' he would be a sweet angel. I just thought I'd mention that. anyways, my personal experience is with high fructose corn syrup. so part of my suggestion is to make sure he's not getting any high fructose corn syrup nor any other artificial sweeteners. keep in mind that some reactions can be delayed. so it could be a day or two after consuming the offending item that it will show up in his behavior. perhaps you should keep a food journal.

also, has he ever been treated by a chiropractor?
Here is a link I found today about magnesium, I hope it helps: http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html
Good luck and keep looking until you find the right answer for you and your son. ~C.~

Anyone that responds to you with calling another mama's shared experience and sincere advice "crap" *has not* your best interests at heart and is likely just seeking a place to vent. That's more than welcome -- as its own thread.

As for your post, as a parent of a child with behavior issues manifested by dietary allergies and intolerances, all I'm saying is that you don't *have to start* with medication and that finding the "right medication" might not even be possible. Some children respond amazingly to elimination diets, others don't - as is with medication. It's a topic to research on your own if you'd like. If you'd rather not, that's your perogative -- he's your precious child, not any of ours on this board!

HTH -- PM me if you'd like me to share some specific sources of info for more about food allergies and intolerances...I'd be happy to help in any way that I can.

A friend of mine has a son with ADHD and my son has Autism. I told her about the good things I was seeing after I took my son off of cow's milk and switched to Soy and started giving him Nordic Naturals Cod Liver Oil for children so she tried it with her son and almost instantly she noticed a difference. He was calmer and was able to consentrate on learning and things. Maybe try that. Good Luck

While we cannot offer "treatment" options- that is reserved for medical types, I can let you know the sorts of stategies that has helped my now 8.5 year old.

Diet: preservatives and colorings just are the worst for my guy. Also, turns out he is gluten sensistive like his Daddy so we leave off bread, pastas, and cereals. A high protein, high fruit and vegetable diet makes him happier. Also, added in tons of unsweetened yoghurt. We steer clear of sugar and corn syrup as well now, and he and WE are happier!

Now, for behaviours, we were a little stumped. Currently, we are using the Neurodevelopmental approach which can be started super young and are seeing super results. www.littlegiantsteps.com will show you NDs in your area- it is pricey but effective and DRUG free.

HTH,
J.

C. - I am sure you will receive plenty of responses but my daughter was diagnosed in January with ADD/ADHD. The doctor that I was referred to through the school is Dr. Michael S. Kramer. He is located in Dallas at 35 & 635. I took my daughter to him for 9 months. I spent 6 months of those looking for another doctor becuase of the work ethics of the office. (The front doors would be locked and no one there when I would get there for a 10am appointment. Other times, the secretary would be there but he wasnt there until well after 11am). I think the only reason he keeps patients is because it is SO hard to find doctors that treat ADHD. I searched for several months on my own and through my health insurance. My insurance company informed me that not all pediatrician prescribe the medications for ADHD and said to contact nuerologist, physiciatrist, and physicologist. My pediatrician referred me to Texas Child Nuerology in Plano. Instead of the pediatricians recommendation, I used the schools recommendation (Dr. Kramer). The visits were horrible but the medication has made a difference. You have to remember that it is a guessing game as to what medication and what dosage works for your child. After several months of searching the internet for ADD/ADHD Doctors and Treatment for ADD/ADHD I FINALLY FOUND ONE! Their website is docyoung.com. The last 2 months with Dr. Young have been great! Real Professional environment. He spent many years as a pediatrician treating ADD/ADHD but just recently decided to focus full time on ADD/ADHD because there is such a high demand for it and very few knowledgable providers. He is located at Independance Parkway and 15th Street in Plano. Good Luck to you - M.

There are things you can do that will help your son.

First of all, is your life structured? Do you have a set schedule with get up and eating and go-to-bed times that are pretty much set in stone? ADHD children thrive in structured environments.

Secondly, is your house clean? Is it orderly? Do things have homes where they belong? If your house is cluttered and crazy, join flylady.net and whip it into shape. ADHD children thrive where there is order.

Thirdly, evaluate your eating. Do you eat fast food? Stop completely. Do you eat pre-packaged, easy and quick to fix meals? Stop completely. ADHD children thrive when their diets have no additives and preservatives.

It is hard sometimes to find the time to cook correctly. What we do in our house is cook all our meats on one day for the week. Cuts down on prep time an amazing amount. Then all you have to do is heat the meat, steam the veggies, and pour the milk.

Good luck. Structure, cleanliness, and diet will make a difference in your boy.

VickiS

C.,
We have a natural health doctor that we see who can do wonders with ADHD. It is all natural, so you don't have to worry about the side affects from drugs. He is a wonderful dr. who makes you feel comfortable and will explain everything. He does not take insurance, but you can always try to submit it to yours and see if they will pay for it. He is actually a chiropractor who also does homeopathic medicines, etc. He is not one of those that cracks your back and goes on. He really listens and is great at his job. I trust him with my children and one of them has special needs. His name is Brian Hickey, D.C. and he is in Arlington by the Ballpark. Tell him S. Rosson sent you- I have known him for many years.
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PLEASE read the book, "Why Gender Matters?" by Dr. Sax. I am reading it now, as a teacher with an all male population of students. Some of whom were 'diagnosed' with ADHD/ADD, too. It really helps to broaden our outlook on the true, biological and chemical differences between boys and girls.

Dr. David Clark. He has a policy of no meds. You should check him out, they will send you a DVD about his treatment of ADD/ADHD, it is truly unique and inspiring. He has offerd us hope for our 4yo boy that is mildly autistic. Good luck.

Hi C.!

Before you do anything with medication, please check out going to a chiropractor. There is one in Mansfield that is exceptional! He is very concerned about how many drugs are prescribed to children, when there are other choices. He loves taking care of kids, because he has 4 himself. He will listen to your concerns, and talk to you about the importance of chiropractic and kids. You will learn a lot, I promise. There is more to chiropractic that what people say! If you are skeptical, just call him and talk to him first. His office number is ###-###-####.

I'm really surprised that someone was willing to diagnose this at this young age. Technically, it can't truly be diagnosed until a child's frontal lobe is fully developed, which happens about the age of 9. That being said, I would try to get him into the brain lab at the University of North Texas. They have done a lot of work on Biofeedback therapy as well as identifying behavior that mimics ADHD but is actually an allergic reaction. They had one child that was allergic to Raid. He was perfectly fine until he got a whiff of it and then he appeared to have symptoms of ADHD. The school was using it and that's why he was having problems. If you can't get him into the brain lab, try to find a Biofeedback Therapist.
Good luck. I know this is a very difficult situation.

Please research the nutritional (and lack of important nutrients)and physiological (neurological and allergies in particular) basis for ADHD. The best resource in the DFW area (and in this country actually and some believe worldwide) is Dr. M. Ann Block at www.blockcenter.com

Please don't give you child ANY drugs before considering nutritional deficiences (B vitamins, magnesium and essential fatty acids are key ones), allergies/food intolerances (dairy and wheat in particular), reactions to preservatives/additives, sugar etc., as well as potential neurological impact from environmental and biotoxins.

I and my younger son have ADHD and have received tremendous benefit on a gluten free/dairy free diet, along with removing some of the toxins (including removal of any mercury fillings). My older son is Aspergers and has improved TREMENDOUSLY on the same treatment protocol.

The behavior issue is due to the impact of the proteins on the brain - they can stimulate parts of the brain for some kids as well as suppress for others by impacting the neurotransmitters.

C.-
Hang in there! I know that parenting an ADHD child can be a challenge. But, there is hope! If you haven't already read the book, "Healing the New Childhood Epidemics: Autism, ADHD, Asthma, and Allergies" by Kenneth Bock, M.D. I HIGHLY recommend it.

As for where to start medically, we currently see Dr. Seshagiri Rao ###-###-#### or ###-###-####). He has a Carrollton office and an office in Plano. FYI: He is VERY popular with ADHD and autistic families so you may have to wait a bit, but he NEVER rushes you through. Also, he takes insurance which is unheard of with most "specialized" ADHD/autistic docs. I have also heard that Dr. Hammel in Arlington is very good and treats ADHD/autistic kiddos.

And finally, the Shelton School, UT Dallas Brain Health, and UTSW are conducting an ADHD study (nonmedication based)called CAARTE. You may want to check out the information at www.shelton.org. The parent training class is great!

Blessings!
A.

C.,
You've had many responses. After reading some, I just had to respond also. I'm amazed by the mothers who are telling you to quit your job and discipline your child. Also, I'm skeptical to believe that yoga, karate, a chiropractor, etc. can hlep . However, all are entitled to their opinions. Onc can't possibly know what it is like to deal with a young child facing such challenges if they don't live with that child.
I have a 4 yr. old who was diagnosed with ADHD in June. He is a very smart child but cannot focus. My greatest fear is that he will not do well in school and be labeled as the "problem student", "class clown" or worse. The result being a child that irritates the other children and the teachers and doesn't reach his full potential.
We have an appointment next week to talk to our ped. about medicating. I see my son struggling and will do everything possible to help him. For those who criticize, we give our children with vision problems glasses. ADHD/ADD are medical issues that won't necessarily go away with diet, discipline adjustment, etc.
I would recommend contacting the Child Study Center in Fort Worth if you want another opinion or advice on how to handle this. Dr. Nancy Hitzfelder is great and thorough. It is busy there and may take a while to get in. Also, I would recommend having another pediatrician who can closely monitor any meds. as it difficult to get routine appointments with the study center.
Good Luck!!

If I we're you I would check into vitamins.There are natural vitamins to help with this problem.I'm not sure if at his age there would be an issue or not for vitamins but I would sure give it a shot.Also look for a DR. that has knowledge about natural vitamins because I've heard that some vitamins can take nutrients from the body and when you purchase the vitamins take one out of the bottle and put it in a glass of water and if it dissolves then you know it's entering the blood stream if it does not your spending money thats going down the drain I would also send an email to Dr.James Dawson

now keep in mind,he's not 100% for ADHD medication but he has had a lot of dealings with this problem.(or even send an email to dr.phill for advice Good luck to ya I hope this was some help to you!

C., my heart goes out to you, your son and entire family as I read your post. I have you in my prayers. I am a grandmother who has no experience with ADHD except I saw a SuperNanny recently where Jo dealt with a 6 yr old boy diagnosed with it and parents didn't want him on meds. She had them keep it very structured, lots of praise and encouragement for the right behavior, etc. They set up areas for him to succeed - sounds easy but I'm sure it takes time. As a working Mom with another child your work is truly cut out for you. Please know that God is with you and will give you wisdom and knowledge as you look to Him for help. God bless you, your son and your family. Please know you're being prayed for now.

ADHD tough battle. Remove all yeast, sugary, caffiene products from his diet. Vegetables, whole grains, fruits, water...yes. No over stimulus television/DVDs/definitely no x-box stuff. Involve him in soccer, baseball, walking, biking... read to him every evening before bed. Set a chore sheet and if he does not maintain his chores, no activity. Keep a regimented schedule. Do not I repeat do not give into his wails or feel sorry for him but stand your ground when administering punishment.

Hi C.,

You are getting great advice. I would recommend Dr. Deborah Bain in Frisco. She is wonderful. See if the Immuno Laboratories screening would be appropriate. I know Immuno Labs has a guarantee for their results (no other lab can give that)....if the child does not show improvement (behavior/hyperactivity) they refund you the money it cost. We used this lab for ear infections.....it has been flawless. Not one infection since we started....My friend who has been down the road you are going down, finally took the plunge and had her child tested...she was amazed at the foods he was intolerant to (different from allergy). She has eliminated the foods and he is showing improvements and she is seeing other benefits as well besides behavior. His thoughts and communication skills are improving---she now has had the whole family tested. She went that route because the ADHD meds made her child like a zombie...no affect, no happiness. She is SO glad she had this test done and feels they are getting to the core of the issue. If you have questions about this process, let me know. I don't mind sharing.

www.healthykidspediatrics.com
Dr. Bain is a MD with a holistic approach and natural methods to avoid Rx when can.

I work with children and families, much like the Super Nanny. You can contact me and we could discuss getting together to see if it's something you are interested in. I tailor the program to fit your parenting and family.

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Foods can contribute to this, and red and yellow dye really get them going, and it is in a lot of foods, although it doesn't (dye ) the foods that color that's just what it is called. Sugar of course, and you can get information on what foods or additatives to avoid. If it helps any the guy with a tv show on HGTV said he grew up with it and now look at him, he uses his energy to do makeover houses for needy families, and his mom kept him busy with projects growing up, he liked to tinker with makeing stuff was his thing, maybe you can find an interest your child likes to keep him extra occupied. You didn't say if there was a dad involved or not,but if there is, for a time it may be good to quit your job , and concentrate on the food (this takes time) as it will have to be more food cooked from scratch and not pre-packaged things, as they have additives and msg. You will save day care money , maybe dr. bills, and grocery bills, extra gas for work, and clothes etc. with all that savings, you may not actually make that much extra with a job, for a bit until you can get him more settled. There may be a (hot line) for other families with this problem that can give you tips on what helped for them also.

It was once suggested to me (by I don't remember who) that, if a child truly NEEDS a treatment or a medicine, then giving that treatment or medicine will make a positive difference. If they don't need the treatment or med, it will not help (and may make things worse). Makes perfect sense, I think. So, if the meds your doctor has prescribed for ADHD aren't working, you might want to consider that ADHD might not be the problem. The symptoms for ADHD are shared by SO many other conditions. What about going to your local school district to request an evaluation through their Child Find services? They might be able to shed some light on things because they look through an educational "lens," rather than a medical one. Or, Cook Children's has a Child Development Center that might also be able to help. One difference is that the school will evaluate for free. You'll need insurance or some way to pay for the evaluation at Cook's.
Good luck!! And hang in there (from the mom of a kid with TONS of labels ... but not ADD).

C.,

I work for J. Pat Burleson's - Legends Martial Arts. We are located in Hurst and also have schools all over the Fort Worth area. At the Hurst location, we have what we call "Lil Legends" this class is for 3,4,and 5 year old kids. This is the age that the children need to start learning things like respect and discipline. This is a fun, energetic way to start it. They get great confidence and increased self esteem, which we all need. I will give your son a week free to come in and check this out. Call me if you would be interested and we can talk all about it. The website to our facility is www.legendsmartialarts.com. Take care!

J.

I just put my 8 year old on Conserta. I think your son might be too young for this. It works wonders. Something to check out when he is older.

Your question was for a doctor.
The Child Study Center in Fort Worth in wonderful. This is their link. http://www.cscfw.org/

check it out. They have many options and are the best.

You can work with ADHD without meds. You must commit to parenting your son.
Check into RDI - Relationship Development Intervention.

I would call ECI at ###-###-####, they probably can give you some referrals.
I know it has to be hard on you, I don't have a child with ADHD.
I'll pray for you...

C.,
Please try something alternative. The doctors will only try to put your child on heavy medicines. SOmetiimes that is needed yet sometimes alternative things work fine. Homeopathy can work wonders for children and adults. If you would like a name email me and I will give you info.
L.

I was an ADHD Child and my 3 year old has classic signs. I put him on the diet that my parent's put me on when I was his age. It's called the Feingold diet. Before I couldn't even leave him for an hour in Sunday school without problems. Now, it's so much better. He's still very active, but what boy isn't? However, his behavior and the ability to focus has improved so much. No meds, just diet modification. We already have the no gluten/no dairy in our diet because of allergies. You'd be surprised at what food changes can do for your life. Give it a try.

C.,

I too have a 7 y/o son with ADD. There are so many excellent books out there to help you and I began to do research several months ago to help change his behavior. I especially like Healing ADD by Daniel Amen and Raising Your Spirited Child by Kurcinka (EXCELLENT). Write me if you'd like more recommendations. I decided to place my son on natural supplements (in the ADD books) to see how he did. The difference was amazing. He takes DMAE, DLPA, and 5 HTP all mixed in pudding. We also give him Coromega mixed with yogurt, Juice Plus and a multivitamin. Omega 3s are usually deficient in ADD children. Another good supplement is phosphatidylserine and has great research to back it up. Try this link for some supplement info and scroll down to the brain function questionnaire at the bottom: http://store.drmurphreestore.com/moodenhancers1.html. I just get my supplements at Whole Foods or Sprouts.

I have cried and prayed over this many times. The days can be challenging. Hang in there!

Hey C.-
I saved this email, because I wanted to respond, but have not had the time. I am a chiropractor and I have treated several ADHD children with great results. However, I am now doing nutrition response testing. I have a huge pediatric, nutrition practice. I am treating, ADD, ADHD, autism, asperger's, dyslexia, etc. What it is turning out to be is heavy metal poisoning (from the vaccines), immune challenge, or a food allergy. (I'm not saying this is what your child has) I just handle this and the results are AMAZING! I'm talking going from non-verbal to completely having conversation in 2 weeks! Its awesome! You should call my office and talk to my staff about it and see if I can help. ###-###-####
J.

C.,
I feel your pain. My daughter was diagnosed with ADHD + ODD at the mere age of 2. WE had to wait until she was 4 to start her one meds. So your at the right age to get started if you want to use meds. Instead of using hard drugs to treat her ADHD the peditrician put her on Mythalynn (spelled wrong)this comes in a pill, chewable, or liquid. When we got it, it had just come out and was very hard to find. We did find it a Walmart Neighbor Market. They had to order it for us. I think at that time she is 8 know we paid 60.00 for 90 chewables. They taste like grape. What a difference it was when she started taking it. Just once a day in the A.M. right when I woke her up. This gives any ADHD meds time to kick in before school. (My 15 yr old was diagnosed with ADHD at age 7. She took Adderall) Change her diet this will help. You will come to find most of the time that suger, caffine have an advirse effect on them. Instead of making them Hyper it brings them to a mellow spot. When my 15yr old would be staying up all night i would go buy her a cappachino from 7-11 she would drink not even half of it and fall right to sleep. She does not take meds anymore. Yes she still has it but it is know ADD. My 8 yr old is still ADHD + ODD My house is crazy,I dont sleep until my daughter "drops" but i know it will get better in time. We have chosen not to medicate our kids anymore for personal reasons. Most boys will grow out of the ADHD by about age 8. Keep him busy and keep his mind going with one thing. As a parent with ADD i understand their minds are going 90 to nothing. Take deep breaths and all will be fine.
Dont change things without telling him. Change throws everyting off. There is so much more i can tell u. I truely understand where u are coming from. you an message me if you wish.

Please give Leigh a call at

Bullard, Jeff MD - Max Health Family Medicine
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5207 Heritage Ave, Colleyville, TX 76034

She is the neurofeedback therapist and I think she will have some great insight for you! We LOVE her and Dr Bullard, if they cant find an anwser I dont know who can!

GL.

C.

My daughter was diagnosed at age 2. I will cut to the good part. At age 6 she was evaluated by a optometrist specialized in Vision Therapy. After four years of medicating my child, she became a normal first grader! We got the therapy while she was in kindergarten, and by first grade she was good. She has no memories prior to the therapy----because she was on DRUGS! Duh!
I don't know where you live, but there should be some listed with the American Optical Assn. or just Google "Vision Therapy" and see what you find. The only Dr. I know is in Longview, TX

Hi C., The best medicine for this age is to keep him busy for hours of painting,leggo blocks would help,he needs hours of activities then quiet time of movies,reading.Maybe you can get him in a good Headstart Program.And maybe he could start medication by the age six.I HOPE THIS Suggesten works.My prayers is with you all. D. R.

C.

I have had the experience with Doctors and medications and behavior for over a year. Using a stimulant to treat ADH without a mood stabilizer can actually cause more problems and long lasting ones. We tried Addarol for 10 days in Aug 2008 and my 5 yr old gr son still has the "tick" which is a side effect, of chomping his teeth.

We have tried feingold, which worked w/ my daughter, amino acids, vitamins, aroma therapy and you name it. Things eased some of the symptoms, but the behavior was just under the surface. When the behavior surfaced, J would get upset and then depressed because he acted Ugly and no one (adults)wanted to be his friend and let him visit.
I battled the school which kept berating him for talking and not sitting quietly, called him names etc. Finally last
April, the teachers aide caught hom around the neck. This was the last straw. I withdrew him from school( pre K) decided to home school and in looking for resources happened upon much onfo that was helpful.

I happened upon a site one night , which may help you and gice you some information at the same time. www.juvenilebipolarresearch.com I was amazed.

I took my gr son to Cook's Childrens 10 days ago on advice from the ped and therapist, both whom assured me that there would be ct scans, eeg,blood enzymes, allergy tests etc. before medicating.
The intake intern lied about him, wrote info I never said, the psychiatrist never ever spoke with us concerning our child. However, the wk end Dr. did call and ask to put him on ritalin without so much as a blood test, enzyme test, cat scan or eeg. The only test run on J was a 24 hour urine test to screen for drug exposure.

I refused the ritalin w/o further testing for possible neuro problems; so they did a cat scan. that night my gr son who is 5 went into a rage. The next morning the wk end Dr called and asked to treat him for bipolar.

The info they printed off explaing adhd and bipolar was a pre k primer compare with what I have from Medscape and other sites.
J is on 5 mg of abilify at bedtime. It has made a difference in that he can now sit and express emotions and discuss behavior instead of blowing up into a rage.

I have J home now. I will never ever take him back to Cooks Childrens. There is a psychiatrist in Burleson Dr Chicane sp? that I hear is excellent. She does have a 2 month waiting period however so get on the list. We have an appt in Dec 2008

Google adhd and bipolar the symptoms overlap. you will find your way to parents chat rooms in which you can ask questions and receive support.

Good luck

C., my son who is 8 has ADHD. I noticed things a few years ago. He is really smart but was not doing well in school, could not focus, was getting into trouble all the time & could not (it was impossible) stay still for even seconds. He was bouncing off the walls & couldn't help himself. i had my suspiscions confirmed after having him evaluated by a wonderful psychologist. We then went to an MD for the medication. After much trial & error, he is doing outstanding on Aderall; he was student of the month at his school, is getting straight As, & his teacher loves him. He can now play team sports, has friends.... I was loathe to put him on meds, but as the psychologist said, his case of ADHD is so strong, it would be unfair to not give him the help he needs.
If you want to further discuss this, you can call me at ###-###-####.
There is lot's of hope!!!
S.

The vehement responses triggered by ADHD questions always amazes me. Briefly, I have a 14-year-old daughter with ADHD, dyslexia and some other learning differences. We found out at a very young age and have been fortunate enough to be able to address it holistically with meds, education and therapy. She attends a wonderful private school geared to smart kids with learning differences. The support system of parents and educators is a real blessing. They offer Early Childhood through 12th grade. You can check the Shelton School out at www.shelton.org.
But first and foremost, a recommendation for a good pediatric neurologist: Try Texas Child Neurology ###-###-####). We see Dr. Chudnow but there are several very competent doctors there and ADHD is one of their specialties. If your child does not have ADHD, they will know and will help you find the real issue. One quick thing, true ADHD is not caused by diet. While some parents may have found relief of symptoms this way, medical science has shown that allergies, red dye, sugar, gluten, etc., do not cause ADHD. Best to you in this! You are not alone. Feel free to email me for more resources.

Hi, C.!

I believe that you should look for advice from the integrative healthcare industry. Traditional medicine hasn't been able to help thus far, so looking elsewhere may be the answer. What the integrative healthcare industry believes is that you must get to the source of a problem in order to treat it. The providers don't just dispense prescription after prescription hoping to relieve symptoms. I would recommend getting his neurotransmitters tested. You can go to a website to learn more about this - wwww.neurorelief.com. There's even a letter on the site that you can print and take to your doctor in order to request the test. It's very easy because it's just a urine test. It looks at 12 neurotransmitters including serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrin and epinephrine. I had my 11-year-old tested and about 8 or 9 of the 12 neurotransmitters tested were too high. I'm starting her on some supplements today, so I have my fingers crossed! If you'd like some names of healthcare practitioners in your area who already work with NeuroScience there's a place on the website for that information, too. Good Luck!

S.

We took our son to a pediactric neurologist at Childrens and she gave him trileptol for his severe adhd with terrible aggressive mood swings we tried ritilin and concerta but at his age it made him worse... so at 5 we started Abilify and trileptol and it works perfectaly he is a new kid and is doing perfect at school!!!I can say we also got rid of all chemicals in home and tried diet changes but that did not work for him...

A. J

I had a friend who had severe problems with her son. She completley overhauled his diet-no white sugar, no white flour, no food colorings, no artificial sweetners or flavorings, no fast foods, no ordinary dairy. Only organic produce and foods and her son behaved problem free. No doctor would ever tell you such a thing would work, but its worth a try and could only help and never hurt. We should all be eating that way anyway.

My mom sent me this a while back. I don't know what your child's daycare does, but something like this may help. I know the levels of ADHD are different in each child and what works for one may not work for another, but it's an idea worth exploring. I don't know if it will turn out as alink you can click on or not, but cut and paste always works too..

Good luck

http://health.msn.com/health-topics/adhd/articlepage.aspx...

I must respectfully disagree with Angela. There have been several peer reviewed medical studies published in respected medical journals, including The Lancet, that prove that petroleum based artificial colors DO cause ADD and ADHD symptoms in many children, and additional medical studies have shown links between allergies/sensitivities with ADD and ADHD. Go to www.feingold.org to find links to some of these studies and more information.

It isn't the answer for every child with this problem, but it changes the lives of some children, including one of mine.

He's 19 now, and started the Feingold Diet at age 5. What had been "Tasmanian Devil" type hyperactivity became about C+ behavior. It was a miraculous change in our eyes, but it took some more detective work to pull other things out of his diet and keep perfume away from him, before his behavior rose to about a B level. He did end up taking medication, which raised his behavior to an A level. However, even while taking the medication, when he had eaten something off the Feingold diet (or was exposed to perfume), it was as though he hadn't even taken the medicine--it couldn't overcome that reaction, it could only raise him up a little higher in the absence of reactions. He still has to do BOTH to be his best. My son is now doing well at a prestigious university.

Don't hesitate to combine medication AND a special diet. Doctors and parents who believe in one or the other will often discourage people from the one that they don't believe in. Why not use BOTH? Do whatever your child needs to help him to be his best!

P.S. You sound like a wonderful mother who is going the extra mile for her children. Your son will need you to be his advocate and encourager. Your love will help to carry him along!

Please do not take this personal, you seem to be at your wits end...BUT I must say I am really tired of people/doctors putting a name to "different" behavior. ADHD, ADD, HDD. Please, check into your childs diet. Experiment with THE FOOD, do not take meds that the FDA wants to make a profit on to help you continue to stay on it which most if not all have side effects. I honestly have to laugh when I see a commercial of meds the FDA "approves of" that is for ONE thing but has problems that could effect FIVE plus things. Talk to a nutritionalist or figure it out yourself, after all invest in your childs well being. Start keeping a journal of everything your child eats. remove some things like sugar or Carbs and see if it makes a difference. Good Luck. I know if worked for everyone I know who stuck with it.

I would recommend searching this site under the headings on the left hand side. Many parents have discussed their experience with various Dr's and health professionals in this arena. However, many Dr's are quick to label ADD/ADHD and prescribe meds. (That's interesting that the Doctor's are finally saying that they really don't know the right medications). Meds usually mask the problem, but don't address the root cause. If you don't want to put your son on meds there are many proven alternatives that can help improve behavior and focus. Diet can play a huge role (many great responses from Mary and others on this topic, too).

I highly recommend an incredible book titled Adaptogens: Herbs for Strength, Stamina, and Stress Relief by Winston and Maimes. From the book "There is a category of herbs called adaptogens that help the human body adapt to stress, support normal metabolic processes, and restore balance. They increase the body's resistance to physical, biological, emotional, and environmental stressors and promote normal physiologic function".

The 10 most potent adaptogens on the earth, with the highest therapeutic properties available are now delievered in a fast acting oral spray, called Tunguska Mist. To learn how adptogens help the body, go to VitalHealth.TunguskaMist.com

Many parents have had wonderful results using the Tunguska Mist to help restore balance in their children and improve their behvior. Teachers often comment that the student's grades go from C's/D's to A's/B's.

Good luck with your son...Hang in there!!!
God Bless:)

Please call Dr. Bracken - a Pediatric Psychiatrist in Garland, she takes most insurance and is currently treating my 4 year old (just turned 5 today actually) with medications. She deals with foster children as well and has seen many cases and knows everything about ADHD and treating it in younger children. There are medications that work with younger children, and will in the long run work better than behavioral therapy. My son was diagnosed at the beginning of 2008 and was kicked out of his daycare for violent and disrupted behavior in April. I since have quit my job and become a stay-at-home Mom to help work with him. Although we haven't quite found the perfect med that works for him, I am VERY confident with our doctor (always gets an appt. every 4 weeks, so far no side effects with any meds but also little results so we're getting closer) and I know that we will find one that works for him so he doesn't start kindergarten with this problem and can just be a kid! Please call Dr. Bracken at ###-###-####. She should be taking on new patients, and I would NOT trust a pediatrician to handle your child's medication for ADHD, this is a specialized condition that requires a good psychiatric doctor, especially for your younger guy. I also want you to know that you are not alone! I totally and completely understand how you feel and I've been there too with my family. You are not crazy, you understand there's something that your child needs help with, and keep going until doctors listen and don't lose hope!

I'm sure you have been inundated with advice. ADHA is a hard nut to crack.
I have a booklet with 10 testimonials from mom's that have successfully turned their kids around with natural supplements. I'd be happy to mail it to you or drop it off for free.
Or, call me if you want to meet for coffee to discuss his condition.
Please, use medication as a last resort. Your doctors were right when saying they don't really know how to address some behavior problems.
Look forward to hearing from you.
S.
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Hello C.,

I know that you have gotten so many replies about this and going to doctors and I will just like to give you another view. This boy is only 4 years old. Has not fully developed a personality yet and he is already going to be labelled and taking drugs for the next decade or more. Have you ever thought of the fact that he is only 4 and maybe just a little immature? Have you ever thought of the fact that some one on one attention with mom or dad is what he needs? How many daycares? Why do we expect this 4 year old to have a long attention span anyway? If I were you, this is what I will do. yes i will talk to the experts but only to those who are not prescribing drugs. Adjust my budget, Quit my job and stay home with my child. Work with him to give him structure and discipline at his own pace. He is a boy. The older they are, the more mature they get. Also in this day in age where physical activity is not even encouraged, that might be all that he needs. Get him tired before you get him to focus. Engage him in activities that are challenging and rewarding.
I have seen this so much. Kids getting labelled and treated even when they do not need it. Just give him structure which the day care does not give him.

I never thought I would meet another mom with the exact same issue as mine...my 4 year old son was also diagnosed with ADHD as well as ODD. My husband and I struggled, we did not want him on meds but it got so bad that we agreed it would be better for him. So we went to our family dr. who put him on the lowest dosage of ritalin but wanted us to see a child psychiatrist, so we did. The ritalin only last a few hours, the psychiatrist put Concerta 18mg, it has been miraculous. I have to say I was little worried at first with him not eating or sleeping like he used to but after a month and the dr adding Respiridal to help with the side effects...my 4 year old is back to his "normal" self.

We also worked with our school district to try to get him into a program so that he would be ready for Kindergarten next year...at first we didn't think we would qualify, but they have a fairly new program called PALS, basically it's behavior modification for little ones. He just started this week and it has been perfect for him.

All I can say is structure is key!!!! This is the hardest part for us.

If you have any questions feel free to ask.