Any Success with 3-Day Sleep Solution or Sleepyplanet Schedule

Updated on August 08, 2008
S.C. asks from San Diego, CA
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I have an 18 month old boy who is bottle fed and goes to sleep easy at night but wakes sporatically all night long and WON'T go back to sleep unless my husband goes in there and tells him to (picks him up, says it's still night-night time, and lays him back down). If I go in there, he wants a bottle and signs milk. Then, he throws a tantrum if he doesn't get it.
He used to go down easy for his one nap, but then would wake 45 minutes or an hour later. I had decided I wanted his nap longer, so I let him cry it out (which was an hour and 25 minutes of screaming and I finally went in there- he never fell asleep!). Anyway, since that episode, he won't go down for a nap- at all! He throws tantrums and fits. He protests at the thought of his crib (during the day). He only sleeps in the car but still wakes 30 minutes later. He's gone whole days without naps and then crashes on the ground for ten minutes in the evening.
My husband and I are desperate for some all night sleep and for him to take a nap (which he really needs- he is SO grumpy!). We recently ordered the Sleepyplanet DVD and the 3 Day Sleep Solution DVD, but haven't started either yet. I was wondering if anyone had any sucess stories (espeically with older babies) using either of these OR any horror stories to warn us away from them.
We are ready for crying-it-out but only if it works and won't make things worse. I don't want him to start boycotting night sleep the way he is doing his naps, now.
Any advice or testimonials would be helpful!

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J.M.

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Hi S.:
I think,you've basicaly answered your own question.You tried letting him cry it out for an hour and a half,and now he won't nap for you at all.I honestly don't know, where Julie L gets this idea, that babies are so brillant,that they cry because they know it inpowers them.This certainly would make them all wise BEYOND their years! I question why? If babies are so brillant, they know they're controling you,why don't they just speak fluent English? Babies, cries, are their only way of communicating to you.They can't tell you when they're wet, or when they're hungry,or when they hurt.You have to use your intuition,and become familiar with their different cries.You will get arguments on both sides here on CIO and regardless,of how offensive some mothers here think it is to disagree with their methods, I won't patronize you by saying I think it compassionate,or benificial to you or your baby. Your baby cries,for a reason.Sometimes, that reason will be (just because he needs to know your near)Leaving your son to cry for that long,made him feel helpless.Like,no matter how long or hard he cried,for you,you never came.Now he fears each time he goes to sleep,if he needs you,you won't be there.Your son doesn't want to control you,however, he does want to feel that security that his mother or father are near,and if he has the need to be held close he can. I guess, some could perceve that as power.I call it (The power of LOVE)Sometimes S.,we're better off following our hearts.I wish you and your sweet boy the best.

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J.L.

answers from San Diego on

Hi S., I'm an old school mom so I don't know about DVD's to help your child sleep when they are supossed to. But if I may give you some old fashin advice, and rememebr sweetie it is just advice. If a child is allowed to boycot, refuse, to rebell, that child is given so much power over the parents, I read everyday in theses mamasource request, about kids not sleeping through the nigth. At 18 months old I was still rocking my toddles before bed time, and then i laid them down and they slept through the night, if your husband goes in there or you go in there, he will continue to wake up like clock work, discipline for some reason has git out the window, and replaced with cry it out, co sleeping, etc. when it is time for bed it is time for bed, and thats it, you have to break this pattern/cycle you have created, by going into his room and telling him night time is not over, that's to many workds for an 18 months old. I have an 18 month old in my daycare, at nap time if he stands up in the playpen all's i say is Gabriel lay down, and he lays down, becasue he know's who's in charge, and he know's it's not him. Childrens sleep patterns do change especially naps, and I don't remember at what age I stoped inforcing nap times with my kids
I know my 18 month old that i just spoke about only sleeps 45 minutes during nap time, but I don't let him out of the playpen til nap time is over. S. you and your husband need to be on the same page with what ever you decide, but make sure you are in charge bot your son, there is no reason for parents to be missing sleep , except for a new born, and I had mine on cereal at 6 weeks, so mine slept through the night from 6 weeks on. Be firm and be consistant. J.

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M.S.

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Ditto Julia M. She said it perfectly!!

M.

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R.M.

answers from Los Angeles on

Hi there,

The "Sleep Easy Solution" is the BEST sleep training book out there. I read several and this is what worked for my son. He takes two solid naps a day and goes down at 7PM with no problem and sleeps a solid 12 hours. It it cry it out, but never more than 15 mins. The trick is you don't touch the child, but you go halfway in their room and talk really positively to them..you go in 5, 10, 15, and 15 is max. It worked within days for my son. The other books I always rubbed his back or touched him and the sleep easy solution says that actually teases the child. I swear, I will get all my new mommy friends this as a shower gift. Good luck!

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E.N.

answers from San Diego on

Wow! That baby needs some sleep (and so do you!:) I have no experience with those sleep training aids, but I have seen other moms on Mamasource highly recommend the 3 Day Sleep Solution. I think I have seen them say good things about Sleepyplanet also. There was just a question here recently and there were many responses that you might find helpful. I don't know how to do links for you, but if you click on "Requests and Responses" at the top, then scroll/page through until you get to the requests from last Friday, August 1, the title was "Sleep problems for still nursing 15 mo old/ready to wean, tired mom" from Meg F. I think you might find her responses helpful.

If you don't get any other specific responses, you can check in the "Requests and Responses" archive by category. I have seen a lot of requests about help for sleepless babies and I have seen a lot of responses from moms who have been there and have real, solid, helpful suggestions. Let me know if you have any trouble and I will search for you and send responses to you that may be helpful.

I wish I could offer some helpful advice for you, but I went through the sleep training when my babies were much younger, and I know it is a whole different ballgame at 18 months! The only thing I know I have heard from a few different sources is not to pick the baby up when you go in there. Once they are 3 months or older, it only serves to upset them (and that has proven to be the case with my babies).

He definitely still needs naps and your whole family definitely needs better sleep at night. I hope you find helpful answers and can develop a plan of action that you are able to do. I am here to support you even if I don't know how to help you! :)

Best wishes to you and your family!

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