Babywise Mom Needing Advice on Sleep Interution

Updated on August 02, 2008
S.S. asks from Suwanee, GA
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My baby is waking early out of her names almost 3-4 times each nap. She sometimes will resettle without being picked up. Other times she gets SO worked that I have put her in a swing or bouncy seat. I am thinking the elevation of these chairs may help her, but she does not always sleep in these either. Any advice? Oh, adn it is not the 45 minute intruder b/c she is not hungry. Thank you so much.

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A.P.

answers from Atlanta on

The author of Babywise has recanted his former 'method' of sleep training; he was also excommunicated from his church because his ideas have led to the starvation of some babies. New babies need to be held. They don't get hungry because the clock says they aren't yet. If you were little, confused, hungry, and lonely, would you want to be left alone in some vibrating or swinging chair? I certainly wouldn't. I'd want someone I loved and trusted to take care of me. Please don't buy into the idea that you're actually helping your child by 'training' her to sleep.

A great alternative to look through is the No Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley. The goal is the same: helping a baby learn to sleep well; the method is very different, and that makes all the difference in the world. By the way, I have two beautiful NO cry-it-out girls who were not left to cry alone to sleep. They sleep 12 hours straight; no nightmares, no issues. They're great sleepers, and they've developed just fine. Good luck :)

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D.W.

answers from Charleston on

Throw that book out the window. Go with the flow, follow your instinct and trust yourself. (If Bfing, offer her your breast. They have small tummies and breastmilk is processed faster than formula. Mine was a hungry little beast and during growth spurts, sometimes it felt like all I did was breastfeed, but I LOVED that time I had with her. Now as a toddler, she's only looking for me when she's tired.) Also, scheduling Bfing can also deplete your milk supply.

Then go check out: Our babies, Ourselves by Meredeth Small
http://www.amazon.com/Our-Babies-Ourselves-Biology-Cultur...

Babies can not be spoiled. Babies aren't meant to sleep through the night or nap for long periods of time. My baby pretty much lived in a sling the first six months, napping, playing, etc. Now at 14 months, she's happy, adjusted and truly a little independent person. She also sleeps well at night.

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L.S.

answers from Atlanta on

I agree with what the other mom said about Babywise being just a book. I think you have to take what you can from it and adjust for your own baby. That being said, I love the schedules from Babywise and it seems that your baby is suffering from that 45 minute wake up.
I do think you can spoil them and children can become quite demanding if you don't keep them on a schedule.

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S.G.

answers from Savannah on

You didn't say how old your baby is so I'm going to assume she is a newborn just from what you said in your "About me" section. Feed her please!!! This is probably a growth spurt in which they have several just before they are 6 months old!!! The first one starting around 3 weeks old!!! You can't sleep train a newborn nor tell them when they are and aren't hungry. I have two kids that I BF both till they were 3 months old (had to stop do to medical reason) and they were both sleeping through the night a 2months old and I also fed on demand with them both as well. I didn't have a book to tell me how and when to feed my children and put them to sleep. Their needs are constantly changing as they grow and develop, no book can tell you 100% the right way to raise your children.

S.

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M.G.

answers from Charleston on

I liked the concepts of Babywise and used them to teach my 2 children to sleep well. But it is just a book. And is not 100% perfect for all children all the time. Being flexible is the #1 thing to learn as a new mom. Listen to your instincts rather than what is written in a book. Over time you will come to learn that you are your little girls mother and you know what is best for her. Trust yourself and love your baby. You are a great mom!

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K.A.

answers from Atlanta on

I am a mom of a 4 month old and I incorporated Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child- Marc Weissbluth with the concepts of Babywise. Our daughter really responded to the soothing nature of 3 of the 5 S's-Swaddling (Kiddopatamus swaddle, Shhhhing right in her ear and swinging). I feel that we needed to teach some soothing techniques to teach her to self-soothe. We would place her in the swaddle prior to each nap and at bedtime and then she knew it was time to go to sleep. We also watched closely for signs of sleepiness and tried to put her down before she was overtired. Our daughter now sleeps through the night (12 hours and takes 4 naps per day)Also don't be alarmed if your child doesn't sleep through the night at 8 weeks. Our did so at 13 weeks and is doing so consistently. Hope this helps!! Best wishes

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K.S.

answers from Monroe on

Both of my children experienced this (I have an almost 2 yr old & a 3 mo old). And I don't have my Babywise book w me (I'm on vacation!) but I would still consider it the "45 minute intruder" even when the baby is not hungry. When my 3 mo old wakes up 45 minutes in she is rarely hungry but just wakes up. I have no idea why this happens, but there are a couple things that help me. First, she really likes being swaddled and this seems to induce deeper sleep. Second, I try to give her a pacifier very quickly & she usually falls back asleep. If she doesn't, then I assume she's now going to be awake & I pick her up & entertain her or whatever. Third, and as a new mom I'm not sure you'll be willing to try (I don't blame you!) but babies really do sleep more soundly on their stomachs. Mine will not take naps on her stomach anymore, but if yours will you could do it when you're in the room watching. I generally found MUCH less waking up during naps when sleeping on stomach. My 1st child just eventually grew out of this, which I think is just the way it goes. I'm expecting my 3 mo old to do the same by about 6 mo or so. Hope this helps!

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D.T.

answers from Atlanta on

You are going to hear so much from so many people about not sticking to the babywise. It's hard for some to swallow, because it's hard to let such a little one cry. It's hard, I KNOW! I have 3, all done with babywise and couldn't be happier. I also have a background studying infancy and early childhood. I only tell you this so maybe to reassure that you are on the right path. Kids NEED stucture in their lives. Even at this age. My guess at this age would be that either she's not getting enough food at each of her meals (it's really hard to keep them awake long enough to get a full feeding. I think this was the most challenging part)or that you aren't keeping her awake long enough before putting her down? I know for about the first month I held to the schedule, but let them guide it, to see where their needs started off. Does she like to eat at the closest possible intervals, or eat less often... amount of wake time she needs in a day, ect. Then I create that into the more "rigid" (if you call it that) schedule. It worked well, but there were always readjustments as they grow and get older. I'd be happy to answer any questions, or just listen if you need to talk something out! I've been there, and still am (the youngest is now 2). Keep with it... it's worth every minute of it when they are older and are a breeze to go to bed, and eat great meals!!! If the feeding or wake time doesn't help let me know and I'll help you figure something else out. Good luck!
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A.H.

answers from Atlanta on

I used Babywise as a plan, but not as a Bible...as in I did the Eat, Wake, Sleep cycle and it worked great for my first son. With my second son, I just put him more on an eating schedule- I just fed him every 3 hours from the time he was born but I didn't make him take a nap every 3 hours- he would really only take 2 to 3 naps (skipped a cycle every other feed) and it worked out great for him.

Maybe just try feeding her on a schedule (unless she needs to eat sooner) and see what happens with her napping. I never really even needed to let my second son cry when putting him down b/c he was tired from not napping every cycle.

The OTHER culprit that you may encounter is reflux. It can make them spit up and/or just cry. Sitting up in a swing or bouncy seat (or sleeping in one) can help!! Just watch for the flattening of the head though.

Good luck!

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B.

answers from Augusta on

if she's a new born chances are she actually is hungry, feed on demand not a clock. Some babies don't need much sleep, my oldest daughter NEVER napped even as a brand new newborn at the hospital she was awake at the nurses station after eating playing with the nurses instead of sleeping. Hold her cuddle with her play with her. newborns need to be held. They are gaining trust in you and bonding with you at this point. My daughter was like that she was a high needs baby , you need to get the book the no cry sleep solution by elizabeth pantley. But being a new born she is too young to try to use any kind of system on.

I have 2 kids and have done nothign different with either, my daugher never slept my son took good naps slep through the night at a year my daughter didn sleep till almost 3 yrs. Some kids just dont need as much sleep.

You also might want to have her checked for reflux. Sitting up can help with that and that maybe why she responds positively to being put in the swing. My oldest slept in her swing alot cause thats sometimes the ONLY way I cold get her to sleep.

also in support of what amy was saying here is a link to a couple of article on babywise. The first is from the AAP the second is from a mom that used the babywise.
http://www.ezzo.info/Aney/aneyaap.htm
http://www.gentlechristianmothers.com/articles/confession...

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D.S.

answers from Albany on

S.,

Newborns don't always nap long. Newborns may need to eat very often; they aren't born with timers in their tummies.

I would encourage you to pick her up and hold her and comfort her, just as the Lord picks us up and hold us in His Arms and comforts us when we are afraid, or just needing His Touch. You may want to consider that she is just needing your touch, your presence, your arms.

D. S (mom to 5, granny to 1. All are well-behaved, responsible young people, and were responsively taught that their authority loved them as well as wanted them to obey -when they were old enough to understand.)

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