Can You Recommend a Bath Seat?

http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Baby-Safe-Bath-Tub-Ring-S...

i used something like this biut mine was older and passed down (so missing a sucction cup or two)

I agree with the kitchen sink suggestion.

As a nanny, I had a few families which used the 'suction cup ring' thing you describe. They are NOT safe. I asked the families to stop using them because they provide the parent a false sense of security. The suction cups can come detached in a second, causing the baby to flip into the water whichever way they were leaning at the moment. (I was vigilant and stayed next to baby the whole time, but still....)

Another thing you can do is to put a flat-bottomed baby bath on the kitchen (or other non-carpeted) floor, fill with water, put some towels around it to prevent slipping and let them both play in the water, brother sitting beside the bath. I used the kitchen sink with nearly all the little ones, though. Put a folded towel in the bottom to prevent their tush from slipping, stand next to baby the entire time, and give them a good wash.

I was told they weren't safe too.

Originally, this is what we used (something like this)

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Garanimals-Inflatable-Baby-Bath...

But ours were not squirmy. You still had to be right there, as they could slip under - but I just liked that it was smaller than big tub and they could sit up. Had some back support.

I like kitchen sink approach. I'm pretty sure we did that with our last. I often wondered why I had made things hard on myself ..

I agree about the kitchen sink - that stops you from bending over and may make it easier to contain Mr. Squirmy. If you have a spray hose, that can help. Give him a funnel or a few measuring spoons/cups to hold to keep him distracted. Do you have one of those visors that lets you rinse the hair without the water going in the face?

It's probably too soon for your little one, but down the road, you can consider an ordinary plastic laundry basket in the tub. The water flows in through the openings and weights it down, there are 4 sides to prop the child up but he can still move a little, and the toys don't float away.

I always bathed my little ones in the kitchen sink. I would spread a towel on the counter top, place baby on towel (leave on diaper), wash baby front side first, rinse, turn baby over, when baby picks up head you can get the neck area easily, then wash back, turn baby over and remove diaper clean diaper area, then rinse baby in sink.

I have seen Facebook posts of moms using a rectangular laundry in the bathtub. Place baby in basket and bathe. But until they can sit on their own I always used the kitchen sink.

I was the champion of the 10-15 minute baby bath. I was always afraid they would get too cold.

Kitchen sink works very well.
I don't think any infant seat in the bathtub is safe.
Water + baby = danger!
You've got to be hands-on on top of it every second.
When our son was old enough for the bathtub - I sat on the edge of the tub with my feet in the water - it worked very well.
If all else fails, give the 5 yr old another task to help with after bath time to help get ready for bed/story time.
Too many people in the bathroom at once is a recipe for disaster and very frustrating.

I will sound really old, "In my day, it was the kitchen sink." Most of these new things came after my kids were half way grown. You stood up at the sink, you didn't bend your back and you had control of the slippery child in a smaller confined area. They love to splash in the sink and have fun. When they got too big for the sink depending on the sink size they moved on to the bath tub.

Don't make it harder on you to give a child a bath. Just clear off the counter and put the baby items out there for a bath and when done clean and go one about your business.

the other S.

PS I recall bathing my son in the bathroom sink before the kitchen sink because of his size.

Hmm, thinking back I washed my babies in the kitchen sink, didn't actually put them in the the tub until they could sit steadily and never, ever had "help" from a sibling.
Sorry, I know that doesn't really answer your question but maybe you just need to rethink your approach?
I might be an old fuddy duddy but sometimes I think young mamas today make things harder on themselves than they need to be...

How well is your baby sitting - or trying to? There are a lot of options once your baby can sit (google toddler bath ring, http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/172130159023?lpid=82&chn.... I used something like this, and it worked great to have both kids in the bath together. But this was after the little one was really good at sitting, and of course I was right there the entire time.

When they weren't old enough to sit, I put the infant tub on the counter next to the sink. On mine, the plug was right at the one end, so I could position it on the counter, but with the plug over the sink for easy draining (didn't have to pick it up with the water in it).

My sister bathes her younger son in the kitchen sink most of the time. Every now and then he get the big tub, but that's not often and certainly not with the help of his sister.

Try the kitchen sink idea for sure. Less stress on your back too because you won't be bending over as much. The 5 year old can be the towel holder or something.