How Can I Help My 11 Year Old Overcome Her Fears of Loss?

Updated on December 09, 2014
C.S. asks from Manassas, VA
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First, I want to say I was drawn to this site because I was looking for answers to help my 11 year old with her self-esteem. I read a lot of the comments and have done what most have said, so then I started thinking maybe its her fear of loss. Let me explain...My Husband and I (who are both retired) took in my nieces children when Ali was 7 years old. Our youngest was 5. Ali was 3 when she saw her Mom murdered. She was bounced from relative to relative until then came to us. A lot of damage had already been done. And let me tell you a lot of bad habits. And we don't use negative words in our home. I don't believe in the word fail either. Ali was classified as a Special Ed student. When I started working with her I could see that she could do better than what the teachers would allowing her, so I started to homeschool her and eventually pulled our little one out to homeschool her too. When we started working with our first charter school, I talked to the teachers and administrator and so they started to test her and well she is no longer classified as a Special Ed child. She also had speak issues but since has graduated from Speech Therapy. Also Ali was 7 and weighing 110 lbs. I wish you could see how wonderful she looks now. But she also has an eating disorder. She was allowed to eat all the time, so now that she's more structured, there are times she will try to sneak food.
I feed my children quiet well. Also the eating habits were so bad that she was sick a lot. Severe asthma was the main problem. During our first year, by the middle of that year, Ali had improved and no more machine to help her breathe.
But with all the positive in her life she is still fearful about being sent away. And yet we sit down and tell her how much we love her and that they are our children now. And NO one can take them away from us.
Sometimes you would think she tries to get in trouble...what I mean by this is that both girls have chores, but honestly it's a daily reminder to pick up your socks, pick up your towel, take the wet wash clothes out of the shower, dry your floor...etc. Both of our children are really wonderful but with all you Moms out there can you please send some advice as to help them further. I do have Ali in counseling. She has been diagnosed with PTSD. But once the doc told her that, now she wants to use it as an excuse.

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Thank you ladies for your responses. I love the ring idea. And yes it's been 4 years going on 5 and we have our special restaurant we go to, to celebrate. The restaurant owners know us and we have seen our children grow up, so this is a big deal. The girls love this.
And I'm sorry we don't do drugs of any kind, but we exercise, talk, read together, I'm involved with their school activities and we volunteer in our community. Something they love to do. I know it will take time abut just getting through the chores is what is driving me nuts. But again, thank you for the ring idea. God bless you

Sorry for not getting back to you all and I want you to know that we are doing the family counseling and I wrote out what Ali has been through for the counselor which included pictures and family history. We have a Psychologist and a Therapist who are working with her. We finally find a wonderful person. Ali has seen several counselors that weren't helping but again, we have a wonderful person now. The Psychologist is helping oversee the things we do.
To touch on a few comments made by, Patricia G, Gamma G Diane B & Elayne , I know how serious PTSD is, I've had several family members in the military and friends. The reason for the no pills, (and the doctors have not said that they might be necessary) is because a lot of family members have abused them. And her eating disorder comes from the fact that Grandma was told my WIC (a program for Mothers with babies and need help) that they could have all the fruit they wanted and that peanut butter was good for them as well.
So the program was, that if the girls got hungry they could eat the fruit and/or make a sandwich anytime they wanted. At 7 years old Ali was weighing 110 pounds. She had severe asthma to the point she was having to use a machine to help her breathe. Our little one now has a reaction to sugar. Since the Babies have been with us, Ali is now in the right weight range for her height. The doctor who has been their physician is so proud of her progress, he praises her every check up. Now our Little one, isn't having the stomach issues that she was having and we are controlling her sugar intake. Both girls are doing really well in school. Now Ali only used the PTSD excuse when she knows she's done something that she shouldn't have or when she tries to get out of doing something. Her PTSD is very real and I understand that, but our counselor is working with us.
To address the adoption, we do have legal guardianship and we are now working on adoption. The attorney said it would work to our advantage to do it that way.
Again I thank you all for your quick responses and I'm going to try the ring and when we celebrate our anniversary my husband and I will give it to her and one for her sister. God bless and keep you all safe.

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G.B.

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Are you guardians or did you adopt her? If she's not adopted maybe that's something that would give her permanency.

I know that the foster parent classes addresses a bunch of this when we took them years ago. It has to do with everyone disappearing and every time the phone rings or someone comes to the door that instant cold fear hits them with someone is here to take me away.

I hope the therapist you have her seeing is the right one that has great insight onto this fear of being sent away.

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D.B.

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This poor child has been through so much, I cannot fathom the pain and the nightmares.

I'm sure you have worked with the professionals and you know that fear of rejection is so huge in traumatized and "shuffled-around" kids, and this will be with her forever. You have made great strides but there will away she something there. Structure is really important for insecure kids so they know exactly what to expect. Yes, they do test you sometimes to see how naughty or defiant they can be, to see if you will get tired enough to send them away.

I'm sure that someone else told you that, poor eating habits aside (which can come from neglect), eating disorders are very often a form of control There is so little that kids can control in their lives anyway, but a child who ha been a human ping pong ball and tossed around a lot is going to work even harder to find something, anything, that is within her own power. Eating, sleeping and bathroom habits are really the main areas they can control, from toddler age on. If the professionals have told you not to ever let her have certain foods, that's one thing. But kids who want a little snack food now and then are totally normal - so decide whether it's okay to let them cheat a little unless there's a compelling medical and psychological reason not to.

Now, all kids have issues with chores. So part of what she is doing is completely normal. When they start to get a little hormonal from 11 on, it can get worse. What can you do to make it easier though? How about a towel rack on the back of the bedroom door so that taking it back to the bathroom is not as big a chore? How about a hamper in the closet so that clothes don't have to come down the hall to the main hamper? How about a written checklist on their bulletin board or on the back of the door? Can you put a few hooks in the shower so that the washcloths have a place to hang and drain, right there under their noses? I'm not sure why the floor is wet - do you mean the bedroom floor because they are going in there still dripping? Or do you mean the bathroom floor? Are they not using a bathmat?

I love the idea of a ring or any other token that reminds them that they are chosen kids, chosen by you, and permanent. You could also wear a locket with their pictures inside - seeing the jewelry on you at all times might be reassuring!

But structure is also reassuring - letting them know that you have expectations and that's because you love them and know they are capable. They are members of your family, and that's what families do. I wouldn't emphasize right now that they will need these skills when they go out on their own after high school. Right now they don't need to think at all about being anywhere else besides with you.

I'd talk to the doctor who told her she has PTSD and discuss the issue of an "excuse" - has she said it's the reason she doesn't do stuff? Or is that your analysis? Are you all in family counseling? That can be very helpful for you in learning how to deal with them, and in understanding what they do and say - you know, what is an indicator of a deeper problem, and what is typical kid stuff. I think it will help as you head into adolescence when kids are struggling to find themselves and figure out how they fit in the world.

Finally, with all kids, it's about choosing your battles. For example, if the wet floor is the biggest problem, maybe let the washcloths in the tub slide. You could ASK them which is better, a bathmat in the bathroom and they do their drying off and dressing there, or a towel rack in the bedroom. Control is important but give them choices that you are happy with no matter which was they go.

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E.J.

answers from Chicago on

I think the forever ring is a wonderful idea.

I also think you are doing a great job. Many, many blessings to you!

Two things to add:

1) have the therapist explain to her that even though she has PTSD this does not interfer with chores :-). Make sure you are in the room when the therapist tells her this. It will go a long way coming from the therapist and being said in front of you.

2) I think you are being very patient with her. This is what she will need the most. But please try to remember that her chronological age will not match her emotional age for a few more years. Trauma delays emotional development until the victim gets a sense of 'safety'. Then the person catches up quickly as long as they work through the trauma and the environment is safe.

Good luck to you and your family.

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M.B.

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Your comment of "Sometimes you would think she tries to get in trouble..."

Yes, in a way, that is what she is doing.... she is testing you, to see how bad she can be before you send her away.

How long have you had her now? 4 years? It may seem like a long time to you, to where you have proved yourself now, but remember....she had been rejected over and over. It may take many more years before she realizes that she is yours, for keeps.....

I know a young boy who was adopted, then given up, and then adopted again. He does have a lot of emotional and learning issues.... but one thing his family gave him on his adoption day, was a "forever ring" ..... both of his parents wear one, and so does he.....

It is the Irish "forever" ring.... maybe something like that would mean something to her?

It sounds like you have done a wonderful job with her! Congrats!

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S.T.

answers from Washington DC on

wow! that's way more than the issues most kids have. how wonderful for these kids that your family has opened its heart to them.
this is about the age that my younger started going through what i call 'death terrors'. he's always been a deep one, and i've never really been able to follow the labyrinth of his thought processes. i tried everything i could think of that was honest and straightforward- science, medicine, religion, myth, but none of it could give him the assurances he so desperately needed. all i could really do was hold him and love him while he trembled.
now at 23 he says he still encounters it occasionally.
so i guess my response is that some things don't really get fixed the way we as parents so very much want them to. ali's abandonment issues may never be totally healed. some scars go so deep that you can tell her otherwise until you're blue in the face, but not root out that deep-seated terror.
it sounds as if you're doing a terrific job. i can't think of anything else you could do, other than to let yourself off the hook a little for not being able to fix it all.
my best to all of you.
khairete
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R.B.

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Fear of loss from PTSD and chores are two completely different questions. Self-esteem is a third question. It's probably going to take a long long time for her to overcome her fear of loss, if ever, after what she went through. I had some severe loss when I was little, and fifty years later I'm still not over it. The loss will always be a part of me.

As far as chores go -- it's completely normal to have to remind kids about their chores.

The doctor should not be telling her she has a disorder, because yes, she will use that as an excuse. I personally don't think kids should know about their labels. The answer to that is, "Yes, you might have PTSD, but you still need to do your chores."

As far as self-esteem goes, get her involved in something she excels at. A sport, a club, a hobby, etc.

Good luck, it sounds like you're doing a good job. Reread Diane B's response, it pretty much covers everything.

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E.B.

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Is she being seen by a counselor or a psychiatrist?? Poor child. How horrifying. How could she not be messed up by this? Is she taking any meds for anxiety? Seems like that is what is dominating her life. She just might need some meds (I am not a fan in general of meds however, her situation is very different than most) to get her through this.

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P.G.

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PTSD is serious, so dig in to what it really means, and if she is fearful and is saying it's PTSD, then it may be a REASON and not an excuse. Perhaps family therapy would also be a good idea, so you can work WITH her and get more info on the issues. Her private therapy is her private therapy, but you're all a family unit, so the additional support would help you all.

She's also going through puberty, which adds to the mix. The chores thing is a problem for LOTS of kids. She may have issues with executive function (google this for strategies to help with it).

If the doctor eventually recommends medication, do not dismiss that out of hand, but be careful about it - smallest dose possible. Medication, used correctly, can do wonders for anxiety. The brain's chemistry is affected by anxiety, and sometimes needs a "reboot". Her entire early childhood was a mess of anxiety - if medication can give her the ability to feel "right", then you should consider it. Because the weight of real anxiety/depression is terrible. It can also be part of the inability to follow through chore-wise - depression/anxiety is crushing. You literally have NO extra energy to do life-related things. She has an eating disorder, so she obviously needs to control something that feels out of control. That's what eating disorders are about.

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C.B.

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If you have legal guardianship, legal custody, or have adopted her, show her the papers and explain that because the court has ORDERED this, no one can just come in and take her. It would have to be long, drawn-out court process and there are simply no basis for anyone doing that because she and her siblings are so well cared for.

As for using PTSD as an excuse, I can see a tween doing that. She needs to consider that PTSD can be her excuse to fail, but once she becomes an adult, no one is going to care about PTSD caused by childhood trauma. It's not going to get her into college; it's not going to get her a job; it's not going to provide an income for her. But she can CHOOSE to use it as her strength. Instead of feeling sorry for herself, she can use the bad things that have happened to her as her strength to lift herself up and show all those people who turned their backs on her what a mistake they made; that she is a wonderful person and it is truly their loss that she is no longer in their lives. Instead of "wah, wah" it becomes "I'll show you!"

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E.A.

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Your "we don't do drugs of any kind" opinion is shortsighted and may be harming this child. She has a bona fide mental illness that affects the chemical make-up of her brain - no amount of walking or talking will change that. As someone who has had a mental illness since childhood, and didn't find the proper medication until 6 years ago when I was 38, I can tell you that you are doing this child a disservice by not at least considering some type of medication, even if it's only short term.

That said, kids this age are challenging in their own right. Daily reminders to do chores is typical practice around here. I think you might need to be in family counseling, too. Taking on the care of a child with her challenges requires special parenting skills, and you need to learn what those are. A friend of mine adopted a child from an abusive home, and THANK GOODNESS she and her husband had the ongoing support of the caseworkers and counselors who taught them how to take care of a traumatized child like that, they couldn't not have figured it out on their own.

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