How to Handle? Sleeping Teacher and Yelling Teacher

Updated on October 13, 2010
K.S. asks from Huntington Beach, CA
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Hi Everyone,
Yes another questions from me. Some background - my daughter is in an all day pre-k daycare, where my infant daughter also goes. Good marks, it's close to my work, the price is decent and we've been there for 2 years with almost no issues. Until now…

One of the other moms called me today to tell me that when she went in to drop off her daughter she found the teacher snoring. She asked if the teacher (we'll call her Ms. S) was ok, she woke up a little, called for one of the girls and then her eyes rolled back and she went back to sleep. Meanwhile my daughter was sitting on the chairs that were stacked 3 high! She walked over and got the director who immediately ran into the room. She didn't stick around to see what happened (she needed to get to work) but called to see how I would have handled it and to tell me what happened since my daughter was in the room.

Here's the other problem. The other teacher in the room is very smart. She keeps the kids intellectually challenged. The problem is that she yells at the kids. I was dropping off my youngest daughter after an appointment and was able to look into the pre-k room. I heard the teacher (we'll call her Ms. Y) yelling at my daughter. And not in the "I'm raising my voice so you can hear me above the other children" it was "I'm frazzled and angry and going to take it out on someone" yelling. My oldest is very sensitive and vary rarely needs to be reprimanded let alone yelled at. (I'm not saying she doesn't have her moments but generally she's a very shy kid who tries overly hard to get adult approval) I let it go giving her the benefit of the doubt. Then I heard her belittling some of the other children. When I asked the other mom about this, she said this was common and not just a bad day.

Both problems have been brought up to the director in years past and nothing has happened. How would you handle it? I called to let my husband know and he says we don't want to cause an upheaval and have to move the kids. I think something needs to be said, though I too don't want to rock the boat, but this can prove to be harmful both physically and mentally.

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So What Happened?

Thank you all to who responded!

Hubby and I went in and had a conversation with the director about everything that has been happening in the pre-K classroom. She told us that the situation is now with HR (not sure why this didn't happen before but maybe because me and the other mom are making such a stink about this). Without going into details, the sleeping teacher has a medical issue. I told the director sorry to hear that but if I were to fall asleep at my desk, I would be fired and I look at a computer all day, not other people's kids! It is also dangerous and should someone get hurt because of her condition this could equal big trouble. Vieled threat I know but I want her to know I will not stand for it and will bring in outside agencies if I have to. Now sleepy teacher constantly has another teacher either in the room with her or withing shouting distance, until HR provides the next step.

As for the yelling teacher, I was told that this person also has personal issues at home. Again, not that I don't care but if you have chosen to work in the public arena, you need to put it aside and focus on the task at hand (ie. our kids) like everyone else. The director said that she would be spoken to about this.

We also got a note that a PTA for our little daycare will be getting started so we can have a forum to voice our concerns and other parents can hear what is going on. You better believe that I'll be there!

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T.H.

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I think I would start with a follow up with director about the snoring incident the other day. contact the director and just say hey...I wanted to know if this incident was handled and what the liklihood is we'll be dealing with this again? You can understand my concern over a teacher sleeping while there are children in the room?...and go from there. See what the director says and have a discussion about it. YOu have every reason to be upset about both teachers, but I'm betting that they are both on the radar of the director...you just aren't privy to what's going on behind the scenes. Letting the director know you are observing these behaviors is a good idea, just keep the discussion flowing. If you are rational and calm, you will probably get more answers than the ones who aren't.

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R.B.

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Get out!!! And report them to the authorities.

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B.A.

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All is totally unacceptable in my opinion. I would find a new daycare immediately. I wouldn't even give them a second chance. When it comes to your kids, never be afraid of rocking any boats.

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K.J.

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I cannot imagine that a GOOD director would have ignored the sleeping teacher. Completely derelict on the part of both teacher and director.

My sister runs a large family-owned center and they have cameras and full audio in every classroom. She is able to watch all of the classrooms simultaneously on the computer in her office. Teachers caught doing such unacceptable things are given immediate warning letters and only one more chance. If they repeat any forbidden behavior they are terminated, and with the history in their life, they will be unable to collect unemployment.
I would talk to the director and demand swift and decisive action regarding bozth employees, and let her know that you intend to withdraw both of your children if satisfactory measures are not taken.

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S.B.

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I agree that their situation could be harmful! If you've already discussed this with the director and nothing has been done to address both serious problems (especially if others have also raised concerns!), I'd pull them out and put them in a better environment. I'm sympathetic with the upheaval. We had to pull my son from a similar, poor daycare situation and it was very stressful. We lost money, it was awkward, and I had to take time off from work. Finding another place quickly, getting him adjusted all over again, etc. was hard but it's worth it. He was an infant at the time, but I saw a difference in his rate of development when he acutally had good stimulation during the day! Don't stay in a bad situation just because it's difficult to leave. I'm sure your girls will both benefit from finding more attentive, caring teachers!

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T.F.

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This is a bad daycare, and your daughter could get hurt or lost. Switch daycares as soon as possible. If you have the time and are concerned about the other children there, I would document your concerns and send them to the director and look online for a state agency that can investigate.

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I would find other childcare. I am surprised someone would leave their child with the sleeping teacher I would call work and say I was running late and tell them why later. The yeller doesn't make this center better and the fact that after that day the director didn't act all of the parents should have left.

Geeze don't worry about rocking boats take care of your kids safety.

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B.C.

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If there are things you don't like, just find another daycare. Keeping the kids where one teacher is narcoleptic (or what ever) and the other is stressed out and frazzled - I'm not seeing much for the reasons to stay. You can document everything you see and hear, and your talks with the director and you'll have a case if/when one of the kids gets hurt - but why would you want to wait for that to happen?
Kids come and go a lot in day care places and they all make friends pretty quickly. You need to find a place that's a better fit for you and your family s needs.

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E.R.

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Change preschools. If these issues have been brought up to the director and no changes have happened, it seems doubtful that she will do anything about it now. The only thing you can really do is to vote with your dollar and let the director know that because of these incidents you are removing your children from their care. It would be one thing if these were just totally random- anyone can have a bad day and yell, even a preschool teacher and maybe the other teacher was up all night - but if it has happened before, that is just the way this school is run and they don't seem to want to really do anything about it.

I would start looking for a new preschool and when you have your arrangements made, pull your kids out and make sure the director knows why. You are not paying these people to sleep and yell at your kids- you are paying them to WATCH AND TEACH them. Good luck!

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B.C.

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Being a teacher must be so hard, I don 't know how these people do it. Can you imagine classroom of 20 or more of 12 hrs without prejecting your voice. This must be the hardest job to raise other people' s children, not to mention the minimum pay.

The sleeping part is just not acceptable, due to the safetly issues etc. The teacher must be working two shifts day and night or she has a sleeping disorder.

If this not a good fit for you and your family, you should remove your children. Mom's intuition is always right.

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S.G.

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i'd complain to the director, if not settled file a complaint with the department of child care in your are..if doesn't settle shortly after that complain again and remove your children

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If you feel that your kids are in danger, and the daycare director is not addressing your concerns, then you need to find an alternative daycare for them. I think that's really your only good option

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D.F.

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Can you go above the director. I would not let my kids stay

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N.B.

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First I would have a meeting with both the teachers and ask if there was anything I could do to help them out. You never know what's going on at home. The sleepy one could've been up all night with a sick child or had a term paper due. The yelling one could have trouble at home with the hubby or issues with her parents. Sometimes letting someone know you notice a change in them is enough to get them to self reflect and take the proper steps needed to get back on track.

If that fails, rock the boat...then find another source of child care.

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R.W.

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I don't know about the yelling, but I wanted to give my thoughts on the sleeping.
You don't know what is going on in her life that is making her so exhausted...
For example: I recently learned that my son's teacher lost THREE family members/friends in the past month.
This is pre-K, so obviously there is a concern about the children's safety without supervision, but the director obviously talked to her, so I would not expect it to happen again.

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K.P.

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I would put your complaint in writing to the director, but you can really only address YOUR issue. Encourage your friend to do the same. In your letter request an appointment to discuss the concerns and make sure to ask about follow-up.

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If you complain to the director, I don't believe that harsh teacher really is going to change how she interacts with kids and suddenly become more loving, warm and fuzzy. Honestly, if I heard a teacher yelling, I mean really yelling inappropriately and not just firmly correcting my preschooler, I would have made my presence known. And I would say, Mrs. so and so, I think I will stay by my child for the rest of the day so you can focus on the craft project (or whatever). Let her try that again while you're in the room, she wouldn't dare. If she won't allow you to stay, "well then, I think I will take my kids out for a little Mom time" and I would leave with my kids. And NOT come back. I would then write the director a letter stating your reasons for leaving. Upheavel or not, I would not have my children crushed that way by a bully teacher. If your husband doesn't want to deal with all that chaos, (understandable since it IS a huge disruption, but so worth it in the end) I would volunteer to take a leave from work, work at home, or whatever, and start the process of searching for new child care. Good luck!

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C.S.

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camera phone & the city. The yelling I am sure they won't dow anything about, but sleeping! I would take a quick snip of the room and turn them in if they choose to not do anything.

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S.A.

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Get your kids out of that school. I would report it to the police and social services!

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