Seek Advice on My 18 Year Old Son

Updated on August 02, 2011
C.T. asks from Hightstown, NJ
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My son turned 18 in April and he graduated Highschool in June. He started working a part time job on Saturday and Sunday from 5am-3:30pm. This job is at my husbands job, but through a temp agency. He was good throughout his highschool years with no drinking, drugs, or smoking. Now that he is out of highschool and enrolled in community college for September, he now smokes cigarettes, hanging out at car meets on Wednesday and Sunday nights and is completely disrespectful.

He was always a smart, stubborn, opinionated teenager and a lot of his arguments were solid coherent arguments, however they were always disrespectful. My husband him clash because my husband believes that you should not talk the way he does to us. My parents and friends have heard the way he speaks and are appalled at it. He has a midnight curfew because there is nothing but trouble after that hour. His friends appear to have a similar curfew and if there was to be something specific I would be ok with extending the curfew but there is nothing ever going on for him to need to do that.

The problem got worse the other day because he went to his car meet on Sunday night and was scheduled to start a new work schedule working Monday thru Friday so that he could save more money for his car that he needs to purchase before college. However, purchasing cigarettes and food while out are getting expensive. Well his friends car broke down, he called saying he was going to be later then midnight cause they pushed the car for an hour (meanwhile the kid had AAA). I came to find out at 4:30 am that he called out of work for the second Monday in 2 weeks. (sometimes they give him an extra day for more money) I was upset. I came home from work to find his friend over. I asked him to send his friend home because we neeeded to talk. He told me No that he was going out and to just speak. I explained to him for 4 mins that I was not talking like that and he needed to stay in that night so we could talk. I told him as long as he lived in my house he needed to obey my rules and we were going to talk. He said so you are kicking me out....I said if you can't follow the rules and resepct them then you need to leave..>he happily left and is telling everyone that I threw him out...My question is did I handle that the right way or not?? It is too hard to determine because I am a young mom and had him at 17 so I don't want to be to hard, but there is no respect at all and I feel like I deserve it.

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@ Sheila- Thank you for the words. It is really difficult to figure out what to do and you hope that the decisions that you make are the right ones and don't come back to haunt you.

@ Manda M- It is not that I am controlling in the sense that he has to be in at 12. This is what he does everynight. He does not go anywhere or do anything. He is hanging in the streets. This much I know because that is his reason for being out...He says" mom we are just hanging in parking lots, what's the big deal" The good things that you remember happening after 12 are the things that I would allow him to come in later for as long as he lets me know. At this point in the summer he has been out every single night until 12am since he graduated HS on June 16. This is including the nights that he has to work and get up at 4 am to go to work. I don't think he is understanding responsibility and although I am still letting him stay out till that time since he does need to learn the hard way, it is also preventing him from being able to get up for work which in my mind is making him a delinquent living in my house without contributing. I am not sure that i am handling it the right way, I am just trying to do the best I can. thank you for your persepctive, I really do appreciate it.

I take what everyone says and I try to weigh it out and pull from each person. If he wants to come back then he needs to look like he is willing to understand the house rules and respect me and his father as his parents. I never threw him out, he decided to leave because he couldn't obey the rules. I love him very much and it is killing me that he left the way he did, but I also felt that I needed to be strong and let him make his mistakes, I just wonder if there is another way I should have done it.

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A.M.

answers from San Francisco on

The problem with kicking him out is that you need to follow through - it can't be an empty threat.

If he is going to waste his money on cigarettes, and be disrespectful, and start taking days off work, then YES, I think it is time for you to help him find a roommate situation and move out.

No, you weren't too hard on him, don't worry. He CANNOT be disrespectful to you like that. He just thinks you are bluffing. I'm the mother of 17 and 22 year old boys, so I have experience.

Young men have a hard time growing up these days. So, if he is starting to mess up, I think it's time for a lesson from the harsh realities of life.

Cigarettes are expensive, so if you are supporting him, you are essentially paying for his cigarettes. I think it's time for him to move out and be responsible for his own expenses, so that when he chooses to spend money on cigarettes, he is doing it at the expense of something else, like rent or food.

Don't worry about being too hard on him mom, it's really good for young men to be challenged. If he acts mad, let him be mad for a while. He'll come around.

Time for his own place.

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T.N.

answers from Albany on

Sadly, another vote for you did the right thing. But what will happen now I wonder, and if he wants to come back, how will you react?

:(

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L.A.

answers from Austin on

Yep, I am sorry to say, you did the right thing. I am sorry because I can imagine this hurts you very much, but you proved to him you mean what you say.. This is a gift you have given your son..

He thinks he knows everything? Well he is about to find out he is completely wrong..

Stay strong. This is a life lesson for him..

The parents we know that allowed their kids to loaf, hang out and not find a goal, their kids are a complete mess. The parents that "allowed" their kids to leave, have all figured out how to survive.. Some of it is not pretty, but they are independent..

Most of them really have gotten their lives together..
I am sending you strength..

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K.F.

answers from New York on

I would change the locks. He needs to be respectful in your house and he clearly isn't. Perhaps a healthy dose of the real world will wake him up or not. Honestly it is not your responsibility any longer he is 18 and an adult in the eyes of the law. If things get really tough for him out there he can always join the military if they will take him.

Don't let him back in your house until he understand you are to be respected and there are rules to follow. Even when you live on your own, you have to live by the rules of the place you live, the city, county and state you live in. You should be respectful to people, especially if you expect people to respect you.

Hold your ground. He is not a child but an adult and consequences are consequences. It is his life to live. Let him live it outside of your doors, it was his choice by his actions.

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You did the right thing. Everything about this child is saying that he was ready to try to get out on his own. Him being out of your house may improve your relationship with him. Don't let him run a guilt trip on you because he choose to leave and you didn't throw him out but I wouldn't be so fast to let him come back either. He needs to take his lumps like a man, since he seems to be trying to flex his little man muscles and punk you and his father out. You definitely did the right thing. Don't worry about it for a minute. This is how it needed to be with this child and it will be fine.

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M.M.

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Oh those boys. What happened to the sweet little imp that brought dead flowers to you and only expected a kiss?

We had to give ours an ultimatum. It was the hardest thing I have ever done. He was told, military boot camp or out of my house.
He chose the Navy, best decision he ever made.
It took a while but mine is now 22 and calling me and saying I love you, Mom before he hangs up.
THere were a lot of tears, a lot ot self doubt but we had to be tough. Mine was just incorrigible.
YOu did the right thing. Let him know you will always love him but it is your house, your rules.
Good luck.

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L.C.

answers from Washington DC on

You did fine.
He is an adult and if he wants to act like a jerk, he can absolutely get out. He'll figure out how much it costs to live and he'll either be back or he won't. You need to cut the cash flow and stop the cell phone. If he is an adult who isn't living at home, you don't need to be paying for anything.

LBC

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M.M.

answers from Chicago on

Absolutely. Your house, your rules.

It sounds to me like he's decided he's an adult. Which is fine, you honestly do sound a bit controlling in your approach with him. (Nothing good happens after 12? I remember PLENTY of great stuff happening after midnight - and I was a good kid.)

So let him go. If he wants to be an adult, he can be treated like one.
It's time to let him make his own mistakes and face the consequences. You've done a great job up until now, mom. Let him loose a bit.

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S.H.

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hard, isn't it? Our son left home at age 17 & lived on the streets for a couple of days. & that was without his car....he had to walk everywhere on a hip that needed surgical replacement. (waiting for adulthood to proceed)

He came home, but things weren't much better. It was a constant battle & did not end easily. He did finish out his senior year at school...& he did graduate, but the stress level was high for all of us.

He took one year off from school to work & learned that he could not support himself. Did one semester of college, found that his hip was beyond living with....& ended up dropping the 2nd semester of school.

It's been 3 years & the hip's been replaced....we're coming up on the 1 year anniv of the surgery. Just recently, our son contacted his Voc Rehab counselor & is making a game plan for the future. Will he stick to it.....or will he cave like he's been doing since he was 15? We're honestly not sure, but we do know that we cannot support him financially anymore. He will be 24 next month....& it's time to fly!

As for your son, let him live on his own. Do not financially support him (well, we did continue paying his life insurance!) & let him sink/swim. If he ends up at home, hopefully the mouthing will stop....& hopefully he will be a new man.

It's your HOME, your rules....& honestly, if he's been speaking to you as you've said...then this is not a new phenomenon & it's the culmination of years of his attitude toward you. The fact that you feel a lot of his arguments were valid & coherent....says a lot about your relationship! I think you do admire him for his strong will....& now it's time for that strong will to move him into adulthood. Still hard, isn't it? Peace.....

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S.S.

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Answer: yes you did. He was taking advantage of you, he is eighteen, in our state they are considered old enough to be on his own. And yesyesyes, we hurt when they do leave. And that happened to me-my son is about to be twenty one in a couple of weeks. The story you had sounded so familiar. Right now it hurts, but I wish I had more time to elaborate so will write sometime soon. They need to learn this is your home, you work hard and those are the consequences. He is pretending with a lot of bravado. Life isn't easy. My son recently came back and we are all trying again. He had been out in another town, staying with someone who is almost as old as us. This guy was worse than we were. He went out jobless, got a job, had his car, smashed his car, we fixed his car, he lost the job and eventually came back. We are now playing by the rules and so far so good. It doesn't matter if you were a young mom or an old mom, because I am about twenty years older than you-what matters is what is in our hearts and how we handle it. You do have to be tough. He is saying those things to look like a big shot. If you had however, seen my big boy come home recently with his tail between his legs, you would see that we do have to be touch. And I am not necessarily that optimistic he learned lots yet. That is something we all do through time. Good luck. Not easy. HUG

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M.R.

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I thought I was reading my own post when I got to the end. I also told my son if he can't follow my rules to leave (thinking he would stay). He called his dad and left. He told everyone I kicked him out also. When his friends and their parents hear from me what really went down they seem to understand. They know I would not ever do that to my child unless something was going on with him that I could not handle. The disrespect was getting so bad that those words actually came out of my mouth. I have been told by his friends that he hates it there and doesn't like the kids in his new school but he will not tell me this himself. The negativity has left the house and things are much smoother for the other children and us but I have to admit I miss my son more than words can say. When he's here he still acts the same. For the first visits he was calm but now keeps making negative comments about me throwing me out and doing some of the things he did before that I didn't like. Good Luck. He is on his own now. I understand you wan t to help him but he will turn away from you if you push. Don't borrow or give him any money or let him use your car. He needs to learn how to earn his own money and that mommy and daddy won't bail him out. This will make him grow up fast.

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D.P.

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I agree: Your house, your rules.

If he doesn't want to abide by them, let him find out that the grass isn't always greener.

Hopefully this is a "new freedom" phase of recent grads that will pass.

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B.Z.

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C.,

It's tough to say if you handled it right or not. We are not there and have not lived with your son but I can tell you that as a mother of a boy who was very slow to grow up that sometimes you need to be very tough with them. My son was and is a terrific person, very fun, never a smart mouth, respectful, etc. however he could not follow through on anything he said he would do. He lied about many things, drove up school loans without actually going to school, etc. Three years ago we (mostly me) reached our limit and told him to get out or figure out what his plan was for his life. It was tough and my husband didn't necessarily agree with me but he did back me up. Well, my son decided to go into the Air Force. It was the best thing possible for him. He is doing great there and seems to be finally getting his act together. Either way it is no longer our problem it is his.

I wish that we had done it earlier, the same as you. I would let him be and not help him until he comes to you and asks for help and has a plan for his life. For sure I would not sign for any student loans or pay one dime of tuition if he is not ready for school.

Good Luck. I'm sure he will come around.

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S.T.

answers from New York on

Teenagers are tough. My kids are teens now and I feel like I'm never going to know if I'm doing the right thing. I guess in another 10 years we'll know.

A youth counselor I've listened to says "rules without relationship equals rebellion". I think that boundaries are VERY important. They are very important. The problem is that many people (more men than women) bark orders at their kids thinking they should just automatically obey. But if our kids only hear us barking orders and not talking with them and affriming them when they do good things and show maturity then they don't want to do the things we ask or tell them to do.

I've found with my daughter that when she understands the "whys" of our rules and boundaries she's better - but still fresh. I expect my teens to be fresh and slam doors and yell back. But they also know there will be consequences to those actions. My daughter knows that when she yells back or slams a door or does something disrespectful - particularly in front of others - that she loses privileges. The big things with her are her cell phone and the internet. In another year or so it will be the car. We tell her that those things are privileges and privileges come with responsibility.

We tell our kids that we expect that they will increase in responsibility and maturity - and as long as we see those increasing they will get increased privileges. But when there are rebellious set-backs and times when they intentionally disobey then they lose their cell phone or internet access or xbox - or whatever it is they they really want.

But, the other side of the coin is that we are very conscious of making a point of telling our kids when we are proud of them and when they do something good and/or responsible. My daughter will remind me when she wants to do something - she'll say mom you always say that privileges are based on us being responsible and you told me how well I've been doing and how proud you are of my increased maturity - so you should let me go to this party. And she's right - so we let out the "leash" a little bit and give her the opportunity to show her maturity. This last weekend we let her go to a party and required that she call us at a certain time and that she be home by a certain time. (She's 15 so the times are still pretty early.) She did both so next time we'll let her try it out again. But I know the time will come when she won't be home on time or she won't call when she's supposed to - and that will be a set-back and she'll lose some privilege. I won't be surprised and I won't take it personally - it's all part of the maturing process.

Your son in 18 and he's now able to be out on his own. you told him "your house - your rules" which is perfectly understandable. Wehn he's prepared to be mature and take his job seriously and follow the household boundaries then he can come back home. He probably will because he'll discover that being out on his own is no easy thing. But if he wants to experiment being out on his own make sure he's really on his own - his own car insurance, his own cell phone bill, etc. We tell out kids that as long as we are financing their life they are responsible to us. When they are able to finance their own life they can do whatever they want.

When your son wants to come back home allow him to do so with open arms - but be cretain that he understand the boundaries. Make sure that he understands that he must follow curfew and be willing to discuss curfew time - tell him that as you see increased responsibility with his job and when he is able to get to work on time every morning then his curfew can be relaxed, etc. At 18 he does need to have some input in to decisions regarding his life - but as long as you finance his life you still have the final say.

Good luck mama! I know since my kids are still in their early teens that this teenage stuff will continue to get harder. But I'm clining to the hope that they get better around 20 - I am looking forward to those days!!!

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E.B.

answers from Beaumont on

Yes, you did the right thing. It's easy to "armchair quarterback" ourselves after the fact but don't. Your house, your rules.

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S.W.

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Don't be so hard on yourself. He feels that he is "the man' now that he has graduated high school even though he his still a child. You did not throw him out -- he walked out. He is trying to make you look bad by saying you did it.

Let him stew a bit. Life is not as great on your own as you think. He may come around and ask to come home. If does ask, have a list of rules he must follow and abide by or he will be out in the cold cruel world of adulthood.

It is a part of growing up and it seems that males more than females have this rite thing. My son challenged me the day he was to go into the Army by not wanting to go but I told him that he had signed papers and if he did not go he would be AWOL before he got in. So technically like you I "threw" him out because I told him he was leaving my house today even if he didn't go into the Army he was going. It took me a year to realize I put him out. Little does he understand that as a mom you prepare yourself for separation and that is what I had done. he has since thanked me for what I did that day.

So give yourself a big hug and realize this is a change between child and a parent into adulthood. All will work out well. It may take several hard knocks and bruises to learn but it will work out.

The other S.

Stand tall on your principles.

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P.W.

answers from Dallas on

I know you got a lot of answers and I didn't read them. Sorry if I repeat.

You were absolutely right! Some kids are just more difficult than others no matter what you do, but you are entitled to protect yourself. It makes your son responsible for himself. He is 18 and the choice is his.

If he is difficult then I would say do your best not to get into arguments. My gut is that you can't win. Don't talk to him at all when he is disrespectful. Just walk away. I asked my Mom once what she did when we were awful to her. She said she followed her mothers advice...... "don't say anything. then they will feel guilty." There is big truth to that. When we "combat" our kids then that fuels their anger and sense of righteousness. If we are quiet they can better hear themselves and ponder their actions. You can have a mantra you use each time he is rude to you......like "when you speak to me in a respectful tone like I am speaking to you right now, i will be ready to hear what you have to say."

THAT'S NOT TO SAY YOU SHOULD NEVER SAY ANYTHING. You and your husband can set up rules and realistic consequences..... then follow through. Your son is not too old for your to benefit from Love and Logic. I'd suggest you go out and buy "Parenting with Love and Logic." I mean today. There will be practical ways to talk to your son and it will help you how to know appropriate consequences to get you results.

Last........ many kids (especially the late bloomers) struggle more right after high school. Our youngest never got in trouble in high school but has tested our limits the last couple of years in college. I read an article a few years ago that these kids don't really "get there" until about 25 years of age. That's why we need mamapedia so we mom's can stick together and weather the storm!

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S.T.

answers from Kansas City on

i think you did the right thing!!!! i was the same way when i was about 19 years old and i would be so mad at my dad, i couldnt understand why he would have rules for me. looking back now at 31 yrs old, i wish i had listened to him. i did the same thing, i moved out because i didnt want to follow my dads rules. keep going the way you are, good for you!!

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