I wished I could help, but I have no advice, I know schools like for them to be able to do it themselves, but I have never been able to teach my children to tie their shoes, how my older 4 can do it is beyond me! What I have done for my 6 year old is, I got those things for draw string bags, you know where the to cords go through the hole then you pinch and pull it closed, I put those on his shoes, so he can at least tighten them on his own, my older 4 have been trying to work with him, and he gets the idea he just gets it confused. Sorry can't be more help, I'll keep checking to see what ideas you get.