Use of In-home Care Providers

Updated on January 11, 2014
E.M. asks from Phoenix, AZ
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I am a working mom with a full time plus job outside the home and a crazy schedule. We have an amazing wonderful in-home care provider who deserves to be canonized. I ADORE her in all ways and thank my lucky stars for bringing her into my sons' lives. I was very surprised to read the blog post today and see that so many care providers were horrified that a parent would leave their kid/s at daycare for things including working out, lunch with friends, taking a nap, and being home alone while sick. For other working moms- do you never leave your kids in daycare for these things? For providers- does everyone feel that way?? From my perspective, here are the reasons my kids are in day care for all the "selfish" reasons: 1. The gym- My husband is a TYpe 1 diabetic, and it is very important that he have a regular exercise program. For this reason, he starts work at 6am, gets out at 3, and goes to the gym for an hour before picking our kids up. How is that selfish? Is it better to drag them to the gym, to the dubious care there, or for him not to have a regular work out schedule and mess up his health?
2. Lunch- I have not done this, because I usually only have the ability to go out with friends when my kids are not at daycare. But I don't get this. Are working parents not allowed to spend time with friends? All must be work or with children, full stop? 3. Taking a nap- when I was pregnant with my second, my procider specifically told me to go home and go to sleep a few times. If I could take my kids to daycare for a couple of hours and then have some great, positive interaction with them because I was rested, wouldn't that be better all around? Plus, as the writer pointed out, I pay whether my kids are there or not, so doesn't it make sense for me to get what I am paying for if I want to catch a nap or lunch with friends or even (GASP) go to a movie? and finally 4. Being home sick- I onloy stay home sick from work if I am too sick to work. This means vomiting, high fever, or more typically a migraine. I am incapable of caring for my kids in those situations. If I have a migraine and am staying home from work, unable to drive, I usually have to have my husband or SIL come drive the kids to daycare/school. Why on earth should I pay a separate sitter for this day IN ADDITION to paying my regular care provider?? That makes no sense.

I do not want this in any way to be a criticism of care providers, because my personal provider walks on water in my eyes. I am just honestly confused by this perspective. What do you think?

ETA: Too funny, Sunshine, you nailed exactly the comment that really bothered me! Several comments stated quite clearly that working parents should only be working when their kids are at daycare, and anything else done with that time is somehow unacceptable, morally and somehow also by contract which is completely illogical.
It also bugs me that the one poster seems to be simultaneously saying that she should be treated as a professional business owner (paid on time, clear terms, etc, which I totally support) and still have the right to dictate how a parent's time is spent while the child is in their care, which is crossing a line.
And I do take it personally, when the context is a post on "every parent" who uses daycare. The writer made valid points, but some unfair generalizations as well and the comment-ers ran with those. Such is life, I know....

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Nervy Girl- I was not referring to you at all- I was referring to one of the commenters on the original blog post. From some of your other posts, I know you have experience in this field and I do respect your perspective. I have no doubt that you and other providers have seen terrible parenting. I was NOT taking a shot at you AT ALL, and I apologize if you took it that way. In fact, I meant to acknowledge the fact that I took the comments- to the blog post, not to my question here- personally, but it is hard not to with some of the strong statements made, such as the one quoted by Sunshine.

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H.W.

answers from Portland on

Hi there,

I'll answer you from my perspective and what I experienced working at daycares and running my own preschool.

First, I'll say this-- I think what the provider mentioned by going out to lunch or using time to take care of ourselves-- Some kids who were at the daycares I worked at were there all day, from opening at 6:30 to closing at 6. And sometimes the parents were consistently late. We are talking over twelve hours a day. So while most parents will strive to make their child's time at daycare as short as possible (maybe one parent goes to the gym while the child is at home with the other parent), there were some parents who basically 'dumped' the kids at daycare. We knew who they were-- these were the parents whose kids were always with the grandparents or a nanny or other caregiver on the weekends. They were the first to drop off, the last to pick up, often their kids weren't bathed regularly. (so we did it as best we could at daycare) Some of these kids had horrible diaper rashes that we cleared up over the week and then they'd be gone for the weekend and they'd reappear. It was clear that the parents had better things to do than pay attention to their kids, and so yes, when you have the same parent who shows up at 6 with alcohol on their breath every day, you know that A. they have time to go to the bar and B. they don't prioritize their kids as highly as they ought.

Suffice it to say, it's very different to see parents who spend as much time with their kids-- who make an effort to be early when they can, who genuinely like their kids and don't just see them as one more thing to deal with-- very different if they mention going out for a lunch or a spa day. No one cared. These were the parents who were engaged with the teachers, who wanted to know about their kid's day, who were excited to spend time with their children. The writer of that post was actually using a lot of discretion in *not* describing what many of us have seen. I think that you are taking this post so personally is something you might want to examine. No one said "don't take care of yourselves", but she did mention that when people have the entire week off, bringing their child for still-long days at daycare is pretty sad. And yes, many providers have seen parents do this.

You may pay if you are there or not, that's true-- what her point was is that some parents will expect to be gone for a week on vacation and will just assume that they won't have to pay to hold the slot. This leaves care providers in a lurch. But it doesn't mean that parents should just dump their kids in daycare all day during their vacation *just* because they are paying for it. I never minded when a parent brought their kid in for some time during the vacation--- sometimes moms would use that time to pack for a trip, or use a couple shorter days of daycare to run errands. That said, some parents really did act like caring for their child was the LAST thing they wanted to spend time doing. I saw this as a daycare worker and as a nanny; it's heartbreaking.(ETA: I should add, however, that parents like this are in the very occasional minority. If I'd made a list for parents, I would have dropped this suggestion and instead suggested that parents make sure to give their kids their focused attention during pick-up time. I find that tip to be far more helpful and relevant to a larger number or parents.)

2. Most good providers will prorate you the cost of the day(s) of care you missed being able to use if they are ill or otherwise unable to provide care. This is if you paid in advance. For example, my families paid a monthly tuition which was calculated on a per day basis (how many days each week they used multiplied by cost per day of care). So, if I was sick and was closed for three days, I would have prorated the client's next month's tuition for three days of care. They would NOT be paying for the days of care I was not able to provide. For your #4, I am wondering if you misread the questions-- she's not saying that you can't send your kids to daycare if they are healthy and you are sick, she did say that if SHE is sick, she doesn't want you to ask her "do you still want to watch the kids", because no, she is sick. She said nothing about YOU being sick.

It sounds like you have got a good provider, I wouldn't worry too much about what one post has to say. This is just general information for the general public. We see a lot of family dynamics when we work with youngsters and young families. Some parents are more mature and strive to find balance, while some parents need to grow up a bit and put more thought and effort into creating a life *with* their child instead of perhaps just *coping with* having kids. Two different things entirely.

ETA: Thanks for the clarification-- that you were referring to the original post thread comments. (It was easy to jump to the conclusion that you were referring to me because I was the only person on the thread who announced my background, although I know Gamma G does childcare too.-- and I apologize for the jump.) I do agree that the comment Sunshine quoted was a bit much-- those super dogmatic comments are something I guess I just ignore at this point. I have heard those sorts of unreal "stealing time" comments from people before, but I tend to write them off as I don't usually much like the people who feel that way. If you have a strong curriculum/routine in place for the day and are prepared for the kids to be there with you, the time passes pretty quickly and it doesn't make a difference or not if Suzy's mommy is meeting girlfriends for coffee. You just assume the children will be there the usual amount of time, not picked up early because 'mom's got nothing better to do'. So, we agree! And I left my own comment on that thread as well.

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L.A.

answers from Austin on

Do not get pulled into what other people think. That is what works for them..

They are not living your life. They do not know you..

There are parents that never want to be away from their children.. and that is fine for them..

Then there are people that have to work to be able to have children..

And then there are people that are more than just parents.

They are humans that need some time for themselves to be the best that they can be.

I am all of the above. I hated being away from our daughter, but I had to work full time so we could have our home, feed ourselves etc.. and because I was in a career that I was surrounded by people, I did need some quiet alone time, so I could be the best I could be.

So yes, we had a great daycare. I worked an average of 50 hours a week, so did my husband, so when I did have some off or down time,
I did sometimes, take our daughter to daycare., that she loved and sometimes came home and actually sat down in front of the TV..
Or I would take a nap!!!!! a glorious peaceful uninterrupted nap..

I had and do not have any regrets because this made me a better mother and a better wife.

Cause remember, "When Mamma is happy, everyone will be happy.."

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S.T.

answers from Washington DC on

it's just the latest flavor of mommy wars. most of the people who will tear up another mom for using daycare have no scruples about leaving a child with a not-professionally-trained family member, or subjecting their families to their own nastiness because they never get any time off.
i love how grateful you to your own provider and am glad you got a good one!
khairete
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S.F.

answers from Rochester on

If you are paying for a child care spot, and you are dropping off and picking up at the agreed upon time and all policies are being met, then it's none of the provider's business how you spend your time. I have never taken my kids to any kind of childcare, but I can completely understand relying on daycare in the event that parents are sick, have appointments, need an hour or two to themselves, or have a standing workout regimen.

The blog post itself was very, very good. The comments were what I assume you take issue with. I was taken aback by the comment, "But having your kid with me while you go work out? Um, no. I explain this as stealing time from your child." REALLY????? An hour to workout is stealing from your child? That's pretty self righteous, in my opinion. I can totally understand why that got your back up!

You have a gem of a provider and it sounds like she has a gem in you as well. Don't worry about those comments!

ps. My husband has Type 1 Diabetes as well! Kudos to both of our husbands working so hard to keep their bodies healthy. :)

Edit* I'm with you on generalizations!! I can see your point about the post in that context!

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A.M.

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I wouldn't make too much of those posts. Whether you are a stay at home mom or working mom, you need time to yourself to take care of errands/home business alone and/or enjoy some fun time by yourself. My DD goes to day care every work day. I have 2 blessed days per year that she has school and the office is closed. Those days are better than Christmas and birthday combined! I run errands, go places without the in/out of car seat nightmare, get a massage, have lunch with a friend, shop, etc. And no, I don't feel guilty AT ALL. She is just fine at school and frankly, it isn't her 1st amendment right to be by my side at every possible opportunity. She does fine at school and we have plenty of time to be engaged after school and all weekend. Good luck!

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A.V.

answers from Washington DC on

I think it's all about balance. Sometimes I got out of work early - and ran an errand before getting DD. Or my sister and her DH take a day off now and then to have a date and leave their son in daycare while they reconnect - somewhere he is safe and with caregivers they trust. OTOH, my mom used to work at a daycare where kids were dropped off at 6AM and picked up at 6PM or later. Every day. And some of them didn't go home, but with Grandma or someone else. Or, now as a WAHM, sometimes DH has to take off work when I am so sick I can't take care of DD. If she were in daycare, he'd take her in because I was too sick. If SHE was sick, one of us would be home, but if it was me? Better to be in daycare. She goes to school now. Not much different.

So...balance. Balance your needs with theirs and try to maximize quality time with your kids. I do agree they need their parents. And I do agree that finding the balance is sometimes very hard. No hat I've worn has been easy.

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J.T.

answers from New York on

I think the blog was excellent and she was not at all talking about the occasional lunch or manicure. She's talking about the lousy parents and I'm sure you're not one of them. I work full time and do make sure I spend just about every non working minute with my kids. My former nanny was a long time nanny and had worked for mothers who did not have that philosophy. It was very gratifying once when she told me she admired what a good mom I was bc I always raced straight home from work. Of course I am not perfect and maybe some time for myself would have done me And my family some good but I don't really regret it bc like the blogger said, more time with mother or father means better behaved kids and it's what the kids want. I may be too extreme but I think the blogger was also talking about the extremes on the other end. I think nervy girl said it very well too. It may be coincidence too but I've noticed as my kids get older than the kids who were in daycare a lot and then picked up only to be brought to the gym daycare are the more poorly behaved ones. Your husband is ill and a 4;00 pick up isn't late. More common is a parent who just wants to workout and uses the gym daycare until much much later.

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J.S.

answers from Richland on

I had to take a peek. I didn't read it but honestly I am sick of seeing 10 12 or even 8 things your whatever I am wish parents, dog, streaker knew! It screams I am not a good writer, I am not original and brace yourself for a one sided rant.

Which is why I didn't read it.

I know a few day care providers, for a long time knew most of the people that work at our parish day care. They would not direct that list at the majority, actually so few people do that they wouldn't think it was worth it to type that rant.

Most parents don't house their child, most love them dearly. Just like when we see that neglectful parent at the mall, restaurant, whatever and think things to ourselves child care providers see the same stuff, except it is the same person, over and over.

I guess I am saying I don't think that blog reflects the opinion of most child care providers and those that do it is directed at very specific people who pretty much do this stuff every day and make every excuse.

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G.B.

answers from Oklahoma City on

I'd take them too. They need that consistency and all the reason's you've listed. You are paying for the time anyway, there's no reason what so ever you shouldn't be taking them every single day.

Also, most kids are in child care at least 10 hours per day. You take kiddo when you go to work and hubby is picking the kiddo up actually earlier than you would be if you waited until you were off work. So they're not actually spending a full day there.

If you drop the kids off around 7:15am-7:30am then go to work at 8am you work until at least 5pm more than likely. Then by the time you get in the car, on the road, fight traffic, and get to the providers home it's likely after 5:30pm or even 5:45pm. From 7:15am to 5:45pm is that's 10.5 hours and their full day. So if hubby is picking them up even at 4:30pm they're being picked up before their full day. So he's doing nothing wrong by going to the gym. It's the provider's job to watch the children their full day.

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M.L.

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bravo nervy girl! wonderful answer.

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