5 Yo Boy and the Female Body

Updated on June 07, 2010
L.P. asks from Amarillo, TX
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OK I feel I have no other choice but to ask here because I have a major fear that someone will read more into this then there really is a cause a massive problem for this family and upset and destroy the home. I will give as much background as possible. There is a precious and very intelligent 5 year old boy. He lives with his grand parents and has since birth but he still calls them mimi and papa. His mother who is the grandparents child comes and goes from his life and this last year has stayed at least in the same city and hit and miss comes for couple hour visits. The father when we lived close to him only wanted the child when his mom asked for him or he had a new girl friend then when the girl friend was out of the picture so was he. The father does not call, srite, send anything including card for birthday no support nothing. We also do not discuss him in our home because of the childs feelings. Well now mom is living with someone who has kids and she is expecting again. When she comes over he calls her mom most of the time but the rest he calls her by her name. He does ask to call her to come over and sometimes gets into histericks when she leaves but she never spends more then a couple hours.She has quite her job now and was coming over everyday for 3 to 4 hours but he has major allergies mainly to cats and she got one and the dander on her clothes makes him terriable sick so now she has to shower when she gets here and put on clothes I keep here and wash so it has become to much of an effort for her is she only has a couple of hours and has cut back on her visits. She talks to him all the time about his up coming brother and talks about the things she does with the boyfriends kids with him which I do not agree on. My husband has been transferred to another town to work and we are planning on selling our house and moving to be with him and she has played with emotions on this one on how she will miss him and never see him again cause she can not afford to go there and that she wants him to live with her but has not shown one ounce of trying to build a life for him and keep a job and a place to live for more than a couple of months. Now granted this 5 year old shows some maturity of about a 14 or 15 year old at times and on some things he is very smart and thinks things out and has learned to reason and negotiaate for things he wants. 2 weeks ago she was coming everyday then stopped and missed 3 days and a child who has never and I mean never had an accident since he was 2 started wetting the bed and his pants at school. We took him to the doctor to make sure there was nothing wrong and there was not. After mom not coming over for about 5 days he quit the accidents. then mom comes over but brings her boyfriends kids with her and for several days it is a group thing for all she does with him. Now he has an obsession with the femal anatomy. I know without a doubt that the child is not being abused in any way shape or form I am always in the same house as him unless at school and he does not go with her anywhere without me, partly cause they need me to finance anything they do.He takes magazines and sits and makes comments about their boobs and even though we have tried to tell him that it is not polite to stare at them and grab them and all he laughs and thinks it is cute and keeps it up. He will tell you the reason he likes girls is because of their boobs and even takes and undresses my 2 year old grand daughters barbie so he can check her out. He will grab (dinkers) and shake his booty at you and you can try to explain to him it is wrong and why but he still does it and if you get firm with him on it he gets very angry and upset with you for not enjoying the game as much as him. Now I do not know if this is normal behavior for a boy and at this age but I am starting to get concerned because the behavior is not decreasing at all and do not want to punish him for this and cause more problems later. I do realize tat alot of you will look at this and think it is a red flag but I look at what he has been through in his short lifeand try to understand but also know that this needs to stop before he carries it out into the school yard or some where that will make the call and cause more pain and heart ache in his life by pulling him from his home and putting him with strangers. It is hard for him to accept but I have quit allowing him to just walk in when I am changeing and taking a shower without drawing attention as to why we have stopped this and try to tell him that it is because he is getting bigger now and needs to do things on his own and not have us right there and I need to have some privacy sometimes to take my shower and get dressed. I try to get him his clothes out to put on and go put on mine while he is busy with that so it seems normanl to him. What else can I do? Is it a seperation emotion need some suggestions.

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Ok so now I feel a bit more at ease about this. And yes I do have legal custody as far as the Florida courts will allow but need to tread lightly on limiting visitation as Florida does not have permanent custody so they could appeal at any time for him back. And mom does explain to him about how she will feed the new baby and all and no she did not feed him I did total care from day one. Will remember what you have all said and try to just monitor closer what they talk about and try to encourage her to talk more about them and less on the baby when around him. Thank You I do feel better now.

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M.P.

answers from Portland on

If you do not have a legal document giving you custody/guardianship, I strongly advise you to do this RAW. Along with the document comes the legal right to control who he sees and when he sees them. If you cannot afford an attorney call Legal Aid. Getting legal custody would have been easier when the parent(s) were not involved. However, the long period of absences will be taken into consideration. The court will order a home study and back ground history if the mother wants to have custody of the boy.

Another option is to talk with a Juvenile Court Intake Counselor. This situation is not good for your boy. They may have some helpful suggestions to help you gain full custody.

Whether or not he sees your body or his mothers has no bearing on where he lives. If you want more privacy then explain that to him and tell him not to come into the bathroom. When he does come in, remember it's a habit and will take time to break, ask him to leave. Do not make seeing a woman's body a big deal.

He is a normal boy. Please do not be concerned about his preoccupation with boobs. My grandchildren, a girl and a boy, age 9 and 6, are still interested in my breasts. They like to cuddle up on them and pat them and say, "squisy." Breasts are our first source of nutrition and comfort. I do teach them that touching them is not appropriate in public and I'm working on getting them to stop at home too. But....I'm not worried or concerned. This is just part of growing up. Your 5 yo has the added interest started by his mother's pregnancy and body changes.

I strongly urge you to get security for him in his life. You need to have legal custody and legal boundaries for his parents involvement. I would be more concerned about the disruptions his parents' on again, off again way that they show up in his life.

I know that his interests in girls and boobs is caused by his mother's pregnancy and his uncertainty about what is going on. His mother gave birth to him. This new baby will suckle at his mother's breasts. Did he? He may want to now. A pregnancy and baby bring up all sorts of issues from the past. For him most of those issues happened before he had a language with which to describe them. So he's going to act them out rather than talk about them.

I suggest that you talk with a child psychologist and perhaps also get your boy involved in some child therapy. He has too much going on in his life for a boy his age.

Do not allow his interest in the female body take you away from paying attention to the primary and most important issue of a secure living arrangement. You should be concerned about the body issues IF you think that the mother, her boyfriend, and/or the children are doing sexual things with him. If that is a possibility do not leave him alone with any of them and make note of anything that seems unhealthy to you.

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L.L.

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L.,
Your grandson, I believe, sounds like a lovely and sensitive boy. My heart breaks for the situation with his mother and father, but he is ever so lucky to have you in his life -- and your care for him is quite obvious and wonderful.

In regards to the interest in the female body, I have a 5-year-old daughter and I must say that I think it is the age. They are curious little beings and my daughter is inquisitive about the female body (when will I grow breasts, will I have hair down there, too?) and the male body, as well (dad, may I see you go to the bathroom?) I think this is all normal. I don't have any advice per se, but we are pretty nonchalant with my daughter when she asks these types of questions. We mostly keep answers short and sweet and steer the conversation to other areas. In regards to the interest in breasts, maybe it would be helpful to tell them their purpose, feeding babies. Really, kids at this age are noticing differences in bodies and it's nothing sexual, dirty or unusual.

Don't worry, just be matter-of-fact with a perfunctory answer.

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L.L.

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HI L., Just wanted to say that I think the preoccupation with body parts goes with this age. They are just noticing the difference and find it fascinating. You are on the right track as far teaching him what is inappropriate and introducing modesty. I would not be too alarmed.

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A.S.

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First, bless you for being committed to this child. You want to be the best mom you can for him and I think that includes getting some help for you to handle not only his behaviors but also the family situation. I used to work with abused children. Curiosity about body parts is normal, continuing to obsess about them when repeatedly corrected is not. Now I am not saying that he definitely has been abused as far as someone making physical sexual contact with him but the behaviors you describe are a red flag that he has possibly seen something that is inappropriate. Even though I am sure you are very vigilant it can only take a minute of him being in another room. Many children's hospitals have trained therapists to assess situations like these and can refer you to family counseling. Look into it at your local children's hospital . If you are the caring committed person that you certainly seem to be, no one is going to take him from you. And until then, I agree with setting firm limits on it. Don't freak out and tell him he is nasty, just tell him that booty shaking or whatever is for in privacy only and escort him to his room.

C.B.

answers from Kansas City on

i think this child has a broken heart and no matter how we try to love them, a child who has been so badly hurt by his mother is bound to have some issues. my own heart is breaking for him. but that's not your question. i think mostly this boob fascination is normal, he may be taking it to extremes and acting out with it when he knows you want him to stop. but he just sounds like such a great kid, maybe it would be helpful for him to talk to the school counsellor. and i would also do as someone suggested - make sure you have legal custody. i'm sorry if this is a sore subject, but mom is doing more harm than good. she is messing with his head. good luck...

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