Dear A. and other responders,
Even though the “Husbands that don’t want to talk” posting is over a month old, I felt compelled to read through all 67 responses. I don’t know how many will even see this posting, but because so many women echo the same sentiments I must offer one other SUPERB book and share a testimony to what “saved” my husband’s and my relationship. I believe it can help every one of you who struggles with a “silent partner,” and will help your husbands, too!
The book is “Why Men Don’t Have A Clue And Women Always Need More Shoes” and is subtitled, “The Ultimate Guide to the Opposite Sex.” It IS the ultimate guide to teach women to understand men (and vise versa). A couple – Barbara and Allan Pease – writes this book so it contains both the female and the male perspectives. It was published in 2002 and became an international bestseller, so I was SHOCKED to not see it recommended. It is FUNNY and is an easy read. It was recommended to my husband and me by a wonderful (psychological) counselor, when (about a year after our marriage, in our late 40s) my husband began experiencing depression (3rd bout in his lifetime, 1st with me.) My husband is a typical male in that he only makes conversation about things that have a point (no “talk-for-the-sake-of-talk” like many women, including me) and that are “well thought through;” how different is that from many women, me included, who speak “off-the-top-of-our-heads and “in the moment”? During his depression, he became either (1) completely silent or withdrawn or (2) subconsciously, was demonstrated behaviors that were DESIGNED to cause me to get angry with him. [We learned that this was because he did not “trust” the happiness of our marriage. (He had a string of failed relationships stemming from unresolved childhood issues, including an alcoholic mom). Total trust in a partner and in the happiness he had found was something he had never experienced in a relationship. So he had set about the task of triggering behaviors in me that would end the relationship, in such a way, that HE would not have to take the blame when it came to what he anticipated was an inevitable end! Whew the mind is a funny (not ha ha) thing!].
The point is, whether they are your husbands, fathers or sons, men ARE “wired” differently from us. The sooner that a woman and the men in her life understand these differences, the better. Expectations of each other will change, benefiting both, and you will both be happier.
Now here is the advice that I did not specifically see from those recommending books: Read them TOGETHER! Definitely read THIS book together! Our incredibly wise (Christian) counselor suggested that we read “…A Clue…Shoes” aloud, to each other, and discuss our perceptions or the truth/reality of what we were reading. WOW! Reading this book together turned out to be both enlightening and enjoyable. It will also help both sexes to be more self-aware.
Prior to reading this book, I was not nearly as aware of the importance of language and of how I “phrased” statements to my husband. Men are “doers.” The way I stated things - that I simply wanted to “make him aware of” – he interpreted as me wanting him to “fix.” The book is loaded with insights that will blow you away; and, if you are both diligent and up for some challenging work, you can improve your relationship significantly. Relationships are not easy and do require work; but what a huge sense of accomplishment you both can experience when you see the improvement take place.
I always thought I was a good listener until I went through my husband’s depression and our counseling. I was NOT a good listener for the following reason: I was compelled to REPLY to everything he said! I simply could not sit still and listen to him, for what seemed like an endless period, until he finally completed expressing his feelings/thoughts. The entire time he was talking, my mind was racing about how to “embellish, counteract, applaud, or dispute, etc.” every statement he was making. Our counselor, the “…A Clue…Shoes” book and a LOT of prayer has helped me to see why he didn’t see any point in talking to me anyway: he couldn’t win. There was no thought that he had that I didn’t feel compelled to add-on to, or rebut, with my feelings. What I learned is that everyone, men and women, need to be heard without qualification. I identified sooo much with the counsel that you received from Ranette, who said, “maybe you need to practice "listening" to your husband” and Kristina, who said, “Over the years I have had to learn to listen to him. There have been times when I have literally bit my tongue and drew blood to keep from interrupting him.” Bravo, Raynette and Kristina! I have also learned to listen to my husband, thankfully early enough in our marriage to miss years of “self-imposed” unhappiness. I also applaud other counsel you received from:
• Suzi – “marriage isn't and cannot be a power struggle”
• Caroline – “You really need to tell him how you are feeling. He is not a mind reader…”
One of my CARDINAL RULES for marriage is “turn about is fair play.” Anything that you consider doing should be completely acceptable when done to you. All of the advice that suggests that you manipulate him, go on strike, find other male friends, and even the well-meaning “trick him into talking” just makes me sad. Do YOU want to be manipulated, tricked or have him find a female friend to “talk to”? I say, “NO WAY!”
It took more than a year of work, but my husband got over his depression completely with the help of good doctors (treating chemical imbalances in his brain) and Jesus Christ’s intercession and healing. As we worked through his depression, we started reading the Bible together, attending a Bible study together and, perhaps MOST SIGNIFICANT, we started praying aloud, together, on our knees, at night, before going to sleep. When you are genuinely honest before God (and you CAN’T hide anything from Him) then you find that you are not hiding anything from your spouse, either. This includes wants, needs, hopes, fears – everything! Complete honesty is the ONLY way to build lasting trust in each other. We have learned that a rock-solid marriage must be based on the “Solid Rock” - Jesus Christ. Coming closer to God, through Jesus, was KEY because we were given patience for each other’s “short-comings” and discernment of God’s direction/plan for our lives/behaviors.
You and your “silent partner” are in my prayers, A.. I am also praying for all of you other hurting women that contributed to this posting and express a similar problem. God Bless!
K.