Just for Fun- Is This Proper Word Usage? Not a Terribly Interesting Question....

Updated on August 05, 2014
M.B. asks from Milwaukee, WI
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I can't sleep so I thought Id ask a question Ive been wondering about.

First let me say that my husband is something of a word analyzer, if you use the wrong word he will correct you immediately. If I say that something is stupid he will say, don't you mean dumb, or I love this new printer and he will say, you can't love an object, or this is the best bacon and he'll say- its the best you've ever had? Aren't you being to dramatic about bacon- really nit picky like that. I always tell him I chose the words I say because they convey how I feel. Sometimes I say that "I could care less" and he corrects me and says its "I couldn't care less" and I am always like grrr I did it again! And I thank him and say it over the right way. I don't want to sound ignorant so I appreciate that.

So I am not nit picky about words but my husband says a phrase that really annoys me. It goes like this for example: we are driving to a restaurant and he says "Is it on Roosevelt road? I Forget.". And I say, "you mean you *forgot*". He's says its correct tense but he is the type that is never wrong about anything. Its really annoying because it sounds so grammatically incorrect. You can say "I tend to forget what street its on" or "sometimes I forget where it is" but not just "I forget"- its the wrong tense. He did it tonight and we had the same round about. He is from the south and I know that sometimes things are regionally acceptable but not necessarily proper word usage.

So- informal poll- is it the right tense or not?

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First of all you ladies are extremely intelligent, wise, and hysterical! I was laughing out loud to some of your responses!

I appreciate and am in awe of all of you who know about tenses, predicates, grammar and possession- I must have slept through all of that in school or just don't remember :) So the poll pretty much indicates that I am incorrect and that he can use "I forget." as a sentence. I do agree that saying "I don't remember" is a little less awkward. But, even though Im wrong I learned a lot and can play a few cards of my own now :) Such as "hey, why are you interrupting me mid sentence to correct me? Isn't that bad manners?". There was an article today about how only 3 in 10 marriages are "good" and that the reason is simple--- being nice and kind to one another.

Yes he is the grammar police and its extremely annoying! He also does this- if you tell him any bit of information about anything and he doesn't already know it, the conversation must be put on hold so he can google what you've said to ensure its accuracy. My mother always says that when talking to him you need to "cite your sources"! We used to hate it but now we just laugh to ourselves. Im not always so patient about it, sometimes I'm like- what the hell is the difference between saying small and tiny for goodness sake! I think its his way of highjacking the conversation to make himself look important or he's just really rigid, who knows.

Also, just to get it out there- this one restaurant REALLY does have the "best" bacon Ive ever had!!! They get it from some farm nearby and its orgasmic!!! Its not like IHOP bacon or the cheap stuff at the grocery which Im used to, its super thick with hardly any fat! And, Im not saying its the best for him, Im the speaker and Im saying its the best....TO ME. He does this with other things too, nothing can be the "best", he even corrects his own mother- but then again his father corrects everyone too. And don't even think of using the word "possibly" or "probably" around him because you will have to give an exact percentage of what "probably" means....is it over or under 50% likely....grrr!

I know I only have a BA and not an advanced degree but Im not an idiot, just a really casual person who doesn't care to watch everything I say. Its not like Im giving a speech or something. Knowing I am wrong about the I forget thing its obvious that Im no match for him and truly don't want to be. I pray to never be like that!!!!!

My big goal now is to teach my husband some manners around this and to chill out. Im fearful he'll do this to our 3yo son because I can see where this could damage a childs self esteem and maybe make him not want to say anything at all if he's going to be criticized. Although, I secretly love it when DS corrects DH for example DH says "dog" and my son will say, it isn't a dog its a "puppy"! Priceless, BUT I want to teach DS that he needs to be flexible too or he'll end up with no friends like DH.

Marda- thanks! I can love a printer, think something is the best and to everyone who mentioned it- Im so glad to know about the difference between dumb and stupid! That is in my back pocket for next time :)
Laura- you kill me LOL!
Glo T & Happy M.- Love it!
Diane B- thanks for being sympathetic to my errors (I hate making them). It is SO interesting about the "how are you". And I LOVE what you said about poor manners! That is one Im keeping with me at all times!
Molly O- yes you are very lucky indeed!
JB- I will be quoting you when speaking with him. You and a few others have the credentials he lacks and still think he has poor manners. Thanks for being supportive, I feel better!
Fuzzy - Interesting- he doesn't forget every time we go there so probably "I don't remember" is more accurate?
Gamma- AWESOME and unexpected knowledge!!!!! I can love anything I want to love- THANK YOU! Now I have the real data to back that up!!! You are really really smart! I feel rejuvenated! And yes, he is a snob, we are from two completely different social and economic backgrounds but it doesn't make him a better person or give an excuse for rudeness.
Suzi, Sherry, Suz- thanks for backing me :) I wasn't expecting for anyone to understand that part.

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R..

answers from San Antonio on

My husband writes contracts as part of his job. He is a master wordsmith.

I will ask him about the forget/forgot thing tonight.

If my husband was always correcting my grammar, I would be ticked after a while. I am thankful he refrains....then again after doing ti all day at work maybe he gets tired of it.

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R.K.

answers from Boston on

OK, this makes me glad I only had to worry about arranging my Q-tips for the party. :)

You are a great sport!

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M.O.

answers from Dallas on

Most of the things your husband is correcting aren't wrong to begin with.

Stupid and dumb are interchangeable except when dumb is being used to mean mute, which is a bit archaic anyway.

It's not grammatically incorrect to love an object or state that something is "the best you've ever had". It's also accepted that many languages embrace exaggeration as form of emotional expression.

So you walk around innocently expressing your opinion, he micromanages your words instead of responding to the sentiment you've expressed, and you thank him.

Makes me happy I married the strong, silent type.

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J.B.

answers from Boston on

"I forget" is not incorrect.

That said, your husband's behavior is obnoxious. I appreciate good grammar (I have degrees in Communication & English Literature and am a tutor), but I appreciate not being an a-hole even more. It's important to use correct grammar in written work that will be seen by others but in conversation? As long as he knows what you mean, there is no need to call attention to what he perceives to be errors.

We all have things in our marriages that we choose to put up with and if this is one of those things that you handle with more grace and humor than the rest of us, then good for you - and for him, who is lucky to have a partner who tolerates this obnoxiousness. But if it bothers you, I would have a heart to heart with him about learning to treat you with respect.

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C.N.

answers from Baton Rouge on

"I forget" means that he forgets every time he takes that route - present tense indicates an ongoing situation. There is an implied "always" between "I" and "forget."

"I forgot" means that he can't recall information that he usually knows - past tense indicates a one-time occurrence.

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V.B.

answers from Jacksonville on

It is not incorrect.
I forget things all the time. "I" is the simple subject, and "forget" (present tense) is the simple predicate. "Things" is the object--what I forget. The simplest is: I forget. Perfectly correct.

It actually changes the meaning of what is being said to say instead, "I forgot."
Perhaps he means "I forgot" or perhaps he doesn't. Ask him sometime.

I forgot means it is past tense. I forget means I do this. Obviously he does forget....
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By the way.. "I forgot" is not incorrect grammar, either. But it does change the meaning of what is being said. So the only way to know if he is correct is to ask him to explain if he is speaking in present tense or past tense. Present tense is right then in that moment. And it really is right then, if he asks the question and can't answer...

Perhaps, if you really want to be a stickler, you could catch him if he says "I forget" first, and then asks the question. ;)

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Sorry to add again, but additionally, it may be an issue whether or not he expects to remember the information at a later date. For example, when a word is on the tip of your tongue and it just isn't there, but you know you will think of it as soon as you walk away from the conversation.... You haven't forgotten the word entirely. You wouldn't say you forgot it. But, "I forget" the word. It's essentially the same outcome. Present tense--in this moment I forget. If it is an ongoing thing from the past that is going forward, it is past tense... I forgot.

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K.C.

answers from Los Angeles on

I am certainly not a linguist and can't say for sure which is correct, but I actually think your husband is right. In the exact context you wrote, saying "I forget" sounds more correct to me than "I forgot." He is telling you that, at that moment, he does not remember where the restaurant is. He is not telling you that he couldn't remember something earlier (which would be "forgot"), rather, he is telling you that he cannot remember right now ("forget").

Sorry, I know that's not the answer you wanted. For what it's worth, I've never lived in the south, so I don't think it's regional.

To save you future pain with your husband:
its refers to possession
it's = it is

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K.C.

answers from Philadelphia on

I would say "I forget" in this case. I would mean "I always forget if it's on Roosevelt road." So although once you tell me that it IS on Roosevelt road, I will briefly KNOW where it is, next time we're driving there, I'm going to forget again, because "I always forget". So, yeah, I'd say your husband is correct.

I "forgot" would also be correct, but perhaps not quite what he's trying to communicate.

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D.B.

answers from Boston on

I can understand why you are annoyed. There is value to proper and clear communication, of course, much as there is value to proper spelling. Both are lost arts, not taught in school, and not observed by teachers, spokespeople and national leaders in speeches.

So your husband is correct about the "I couldn't care less" but I can understand why you are in the habit of saying "I could care less." More people say it incorrectly these days, so you are saying what you hear the most frequently. Another example is "How are you?" "Good." (It should be "Fine" or "I'm doing well." (Adverb modifying the verb vs. an adjective. But no one learns that in school, and it's not common usage, so the mistake perpetuates itself."

I think "I forget" is fine when talking about the immediate present - we're driving, I can't remember right now where it is, so I forget. Maybe you could argue that 1 second after someone forgets something, it's in the past, so by the time he expresses it, he should be using the past tense, "I forgot." But "I forgot" could be what he did a week ago or 20 years ago as well. So he's reporting to you his very immediate dilemma which is that he doesn't know where something is, right now, in the present. He's also saying, "I can't remember" but you wouldn't correct him to say "I couldn't remember" (as in, "I couldn't remember 5 seconds ago and now I'm telling you about it, so it's in the past.").

I wouldn't let him use "I'm from the South" as an excuse - rules of grammar don't vary by region. Patterns of usage do, but these are habits and not true rules.

If you want to catch him in an error, I wouldn't use this one. But if you want to catch him in poor manners, I'm sure you have plenty of opportunities.

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M.P.

answers from Portland on

At the present time he forgets. If he's talking about the past, he forgot.

I'd be so annoyed if my husband did this. I'd laugh and tell him "cut it out!" every time. If he continued to do it I'd tell him I was annoyed and ask him to stop.

I suggest that in all the examples of his corrections he is basing his thoughts on his view of the world. His interpretations have nothing to do with correct word usage. The definition of love does not say we can only love people and not a printer. It's his judgment that you're being overly dramatic. Not mine or millions of other people. It is corresct to say you love the pronter. When you say it's the best bacon it's understood that it's the best you've had. Stupid and dumb are synonyms. Either is correct.

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S.T.

answers from Washington DC on

i'm a grammar nazi too, but your husband sounds over-the-top!
and in this case you're right. 'i forget' is correct IF there's an object, eg 'i forget your middle name all the time, sweetie, i'm sorry.' but in the context which he's using it, it is incorrect, and he should say 'i have forgotten.'
rub his nose in it<G>.
and if you really want to one up him, remind him that he is 'stupid' for not knowing that 'dumb' really means 'unable to speak' and got co-opted eons ago by the politically incorrect and has now become part of the accepted vernacular, but is never interchanged with 'stupid' by the truly erudite.
:) khairete
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S.F.

answers from Phoenix on

Your husband would drive me crazy.

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M.L.

answers from Colorado Springs on

You could say, "I have forgotten," and that should work for you both.

I'm like your husband. I'm always correcting things in my mind. I try not to add my mouth to it. Maybe your husband's insistence on proper language use will pay off in the way your children speak when they're grown up! And your sense of humor - which is clear in your post - is going to help them learn.

There are some expressions and phrases which may not be exactly grammatical, but are still acceptable. Probably "I forget" is one of them. But since your husband loves to analyze language, you might want to switch to "I have forgotten." (Don't forget.)

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answers from Oklahoma City on

I have forgotten, past tense

I forgot, statement, past tense. When asking a question that is about a current/present tense thing then he needs to finish the whole sentence.

I forget ??????, what did you forget? Current and part of a complete statement. I forget....things sometimes? .....What color of socks I put on this morning? ....Where a place is, what road it is on?

I'd be pissed off and do some research if I was married to your husband. He's a snob.

Research the types of love, there are 4 basic kinds. Each is defined by the culture that is using them. For instance if a christian is discussing Agape love they are probably using it in reference to God's love for us. But a culture that doesn't believe in God could use that form of love as the parent for the child or to some other diety.

There is:

Storge

Philia

Eros

Agape

Again, different cultures define them slightly differently.

Storge, fondness through familiarity, how we love our cousins and other family. Families had to stay together to stay alive in ancient times. If they split off they'd have less chance of survival so loving our family, even the extended ones, is a natural inherent trait.

Philia, is the love between friends. Not a love due to needing to reproduce or to connect people together to defend their family or anything other than we like them. We have things in common with them and share life experiences with them.

Eros is love of another person in that intimate way.

Agape is unconditional sacrificing all sort of love. God's love for us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Loves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love

Loving how good something was, such as bacon, is not an improper use of that term, it's the affection, pleasure, satisfaction sort of use that does mean you love that bacon. It's all in how you are defining the word you are using.

So, next time you say what you mean and he corrects you you will have the words to spout at him....

Well, I'm using the word love in the (might be Storge) sense. I felt pleasure when I ate the bacon, it filled the need in my body for nutrients, it had a pleasant flavor that was above my expectations. So by using the word love I am saying all that in one word. Please look it up dear, I am right and you are wrong.

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R.M.

answers from San Francisco on

I'm answering your poll because you asked, but I believe the whole topic to be silly. I think your husband needs to stop being the grammar police.

But -- In this case I agree with your husband. If you are currently forgetting something like what road you are looking for, then it's "I forget." Forgot is for something that happened previously, imo.

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J.S.

answers from Los Angeles on

Sadly, I think your husband is correct. He's in the process of forgetting so it's present tense.

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G.♣.

answers from Springfield on

I really don't know, but ...

I always thought "I forget" was the shortened version of "I forget which street it is."

I understand what you're saying. I'm really not sure what the right answer is. But I do know that many common phrases (too tired to think of an example) use to be much longer. This could be one of them.

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J.S.

answers from St. Louis on

I forgot my lunch, I forget where things are.

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C.V.

answers from Columbia on

Honestly, I would ditch "forgot/forget/forgotten" completely because it's rather awkward. I would say "I don't remember."

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I.O.

answers from McAllen on

Funny! (I am the same way as your husband, except I keep my mouth shut. Pretty much. I can't help but think it, though.)

I think that it's possible for "forget" to be correct, but it is so often misused in that same context that it requires qualifiers to show that the speaker recognizes the general misapplication and isn't doing the same. Hear it this way: "Is it on Roosevelt Road? (Every time I get to this point in my thinking process) I forget." Does that make sense?

In that same vein, one thing that I CANNOT STAND is when people say "whenever" instead of "when". Ugh.

I also take issue with someone proclaiming the "best" the way you mention. And "I love you more than anybody" should include "else" at the end. It's grammatically impossible otherwise.

Some of us are wired to understand that certain words have very specific meanings. When we hear those particular words, we don't have to wonder about anything (except "Is this what she really means?). We can take the sentence at face value and keep it moving. When we run into people who seem to just throw words around in fits of passion or just unclarity, it muddies the waters of communication and just makes it too complicated to talk. Some of us are wired to process this more easily than others, and we cannot wrap our minds around not knowing "the rules". It's like the difference between a "math person" and a person who can learn that 2+2=4.

Many words can have the same general meaning, but when you really want to convey something, it's important to use that RIGHT word, so that your audience doesn't have to wonder which nuance applies to your story. When you don't have to stop and explain yourself, you can move on to something else.

Tell your husband to join a support group of people who equally obsess over syntax. You might be surprised at what's available to him, and he could have a ball.

ETA: Regarding the "love" thing, I don't know what the rules are. However, his understanding of the word plus hearing the way that so many people cavalierly toss it around are likely at the root of his not wanting you to use it that way. I think that he is a person who NEEDS to know that saying and doing certain things the RIGHT WAY matters, and he takes it out on you. He can't help but lose interest in the whole story when he hears someone "butcher" the language. (I stop reading certain posts here or stop listening to some people speak. I can't help it; it's an involuntary turn-off. By the same token, I am so turned on when I hear it done "right". Oh!) I think that your husband doesn't want you to sound the way that he perceives others to sound. He believes that you are "better" than that and wants you to represent yourself well. He doesn't mean to be a pill about it. It's just so simple for him, and he thinks so much of you that it doesn't make sense to him that you don't get this.

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