Moodiness in 8 Year Old

Updated on April 05, 2010
L.N. asks from Nashville, TN
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I have a fabulous 8 (9 in a month) year old boy. He has always been very laid back and easy going. He is extremely sweet, caring and sensitive (yes I am talking about a boy!:o)

Lately, he has been increasingly moody. He will be fine one minute and in tears or angry the next. It will be the end of a good day and he will just fall apart. In the middle of homework and he'll just lose it.

He is in the process of going through vision therapy that has definitely given him challenges in school and with the increasing workload and hardness of school work I know that is stressful for him.

We have him going to an extraordinary counselor on a regular basis.

Etc, etc, etc.

Two things have popped into my mind:
1. Depression?
2. Puberty/hormones?

I wanted to pick your brains for some thoughts and ideas. And, also, thank you in advance! This is such a GREAT site with so many great women offering advice. Thanks!

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M.P.

answers from Portland on

My first thought is stress. Because he has generally been a laid back, easy going boy, he's not had to learn how to handle the increased work and expectations that vision therapy and being another grade higher in school brings.

One important thing for you to do is to be sure that he's getting enough sleep and nutritious meals and snacks. Fatigue nearly always results in a melt down for kids and also in most adults.

When does he do his homework? I'm guessing that it's when he's already tired. Have him work on it as early as possible. My granddaughter used to always have melt downs around homework. Her teacher helped alleviate this problem by suggesting that if she works on it for 15-20 minutes but still isn't done to let her stop. It does no good to insist that she continue because she's not able to absorb any of it anyway.

Also, once she gets especially whiny I know a melt down is not far away. So, when I'm involved, I become her cheer leader. She works best when someone is sitting at the table with her doing their own thing. I read but am available to answer her questions. She shows me what she's done and I look at it giving her feedback in positive terms. Some evenings nothing works and it's my philosophy that sometimes getting homework done is not a high priority as long as it's done most of the time to the satisfaction of the teacher. Homework, to me, only becomes an issue if it becomes an issue for the teacher and then I work with the teacher on finding ways to get it done.

I was this way with my daughter and she graduated with good grades. Unfortunately she believes that homework should be done no matter what and she gets into power struggles with her daughter.

My granddaughter also goes to Homework Club after school. It's just one afternoon a week but it has helped her learn skills that makes doing homework easier.

But your question wasn't about homework. You're concerned about depression and puberty. It's not common for a boy to begin puberty that early. In fact I'd think it quite rare. Girls can start at 9.

If the only change is falling apart I'd think it's stress more than depression. I'd be easy on emphasizing responsibility and lighten up as much as possible with him. He still needs the vision therapy and so make that into something fun.

My daughter was in psychological therapy and vision therapy for awhile. She often didn't want to go. We turned the appointment into an afternoon of fun. We had a routine. We always stopped at Powell's Bookstore and bought a tiny clay fruit or vegetable to put into a tiny clay basket after the appointment. The basket was first and then each week we bought one tiny fruit or vegetable; Then they had cakes, pies, cookies; all tiny and made of clay. She still has them at age 29. Then we ate at a fast food restaurant of her choice because that is the only place she wanted to eat. In retrospect I wish that I'd found a way for her to learn to like a healthier place to eat. My granddaughter, at that age, now chooses an inexpensive Vietnamese restaurant and my grandson Ba Ha Fresh which is also healthier.

One can become depressed after a period of time of stress. I'd work on reducing the stress first and see what happens. Depression has other symptoms too, such as a change in eating and sleeping habits and a loss of interest in usual activities. You can find descriptions of depression on the Internet. Google children and depression, children and stress.

Perhaps when he's rested and feeling good you could ask him about how he's feeling when he falls apart and brain storm together about what would help him the most. I've done this with my granddaughter who is now 9 and now she comes to me and says I need a hug before she has the meltdown. She sits on my lap and I hold her. Sometimes we just take that break and she goes back to doing what needs to be done. Sometimes we watch a bit of TV together or I read her a story or we talk, sometimes about how she's feeling and sometimes about nothing important at all. She's now able to ask me if I want a hug when I start to get grouchy. This feels so good!

Your son is fortunate to have you as his mother. Don't worry too much about his moodiness. Sensitive people tend to be moody at times. I think it's good to be sensitive, sweet, and caring as you describe your son. It is good to find ways to help him deal with his moodiness. The two of you will work it out.

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L.B.

answers from Fayetteville on

I understand your pain, my daughter at five was the same way; she is now 14. We went through the mood swings the ups and downs and the whole big ball if confusion. Psychiatrist, Psychologist, Therapist and everything in between, their answer is meds. I'm no doctor but I do have a solution, with my daughter I tried the meds, they made her a zombie, took away her personility and the real her. So I weened her off the meds and began just talking to her and telling her what her behavior is doing not just her but to me, dad and the family. Talking to your kids one on one and in that "your kid voice" but talk to them ad if you recognize that he is growing up, let him know that you understand his frustration and that your going to be with every step of the way, throughout his life. Make sure he feels that he can count on you and talk to you when ever he needs to. And if ever he has an episode step in early and hug him and talk it out. Trust me it works. If you truely feel the your son just may need the medications then start them now. The sooner the better the results, just be awear of the side effects.

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J.P.

answers from Memphis on

I vote hormones.

I have a just turned 12 yr. old boy and a just turned 9 yr. old girl. They have all the same symptoms as your son. I'm at my witts end trying to figure out how to talk to them about all the changes that may or maynot be going on in their lives.
Jen

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C.S.

answers from Charlotte on

I have a 7 1/2 year old that does this or instead of
crying will totally loose it and yell and scream at me (sometimes falls on the floor like a toddler having a temper tantrum). My husband and I were talking about it last night. I can't wait to hear answers to this post. Good luck.

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K.D.

answers from Raleigh on

I agree with you that it could be the vision therapy and extra challenges at school. Does he take a break before doing his homework? That might help him if he went outside and blew off some steam before going back to work again. You might check his diet too and make sure there isn't something new in his diet that could be helping to cause this. Red food coloring used to make my son very emotional. I'm glad he's going to a counselor. Does he look forward to seeing him/her? If so, then he/she is probably the right one for him.

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M.M.

answers from Jacksonville on

Is he just stressed out?
I too have a just turned 9 year old and this week he has started sleepwalking. We are in the midst of selling the house and looking for a new one, Daddy is in VA we are in NC, he has three sisters who are at times completely postal and the whole schedule has changed in teh last two months.
Oh I just read the other post. I will stop retyping and just say "what Marda said" :o)

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G.B.

answers from Boise on

More water...nerves run on HYDRO electricty.
Magnesium, b complex, and cod liver oil can all help his mood and nerves.

NCD zeolite is said to help as well. havent tried this yet but I have it on order for my DD who has her share of moods, depression, insomnia, etc.....

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