My Stepson's Mother Wants to Move Him States Away from us...South Fl to Texas

Updated on April 18, 2013
K.H. asks from Naples, FL
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I would love thoughts, suggestions, stories of I had this happen....

The topic of moving comes up almost every year or every other year so this isn't a new topic discussed between my husband and the mother of his son. She is originally from Texas and has a lot of relatives there and wants to live there. But has been living in south Fl for almost 10 years with her parents. She lives in Cape Coral and we live in Naples which are about an hour apart which is a pain in the butt so moving any further just seems crazy. My husband just got an email today saying her parents are moving to north Florida and since she no longer will have any family in Cape Coral, fl she doesn't want to live there anymore and she is 90% sure she won't have a teaching job for next school year either. She goes on to write moving to Naples isn't an option because the cost of living vs salary isn't affordable for her so she wants to move to Texas (not even to North Fl with her parents who have pretty much raised ss). Her aunt has a house she can rent for $900 per month and the teaching salary is higher. She also wants her son to know his family and if she continues to live in Fl he won't. (She is an only child and her grandparents have passed away. Her parents have always lived down the street in Fl from her. So when she talks about family she is referring to extended family, aunts and cousins.) Now, we live in Naples and I was also a school teacher. There are places to rent for $900 per month or less and she will make more as a teacher in Naples than in Cape Coral where she is currently living. So she wants to discuss different options with my husband on Friday calmly. This isn't the first time she has brought this topic up and my husband's response is always the same. He tells her she is welcome to move to Texas and their son can live with him full time and she can get him on school breaks. She doesn't like that option so always finds a way to keep things as they are.

We really want her to move to Naples especially since her parents are moving and she won't have a support system. It will be hard for her and it is hard for us to help out living over an hour away. Her life is so unstable and has been for the past 3 years. She suffers from depression and we are starting to see her moods and life are taking a toll on ss. We don't feel making her stay in Cape Coral is the best option for ss because she will be miserable but we also don't want to let her take ss and move to Texas because that hurts our relationship with him. It's already hard enough with just a little bit of distance I can't imagine adding a plane ride into it instead of a car ride. SS said to me the other day he wished his dad would get fired so he could spend more time with him. SS likes to see us every week but recently we had to go to every other weekend because my husband can't pick him up from school and drive him to school mid week on opposite week anymore due to schedule change at work. We could get him every weekend but mom doesn't want to give up her weekends. We don't blame her. So again we don't think it would be in the best interest of ss to move states away from his dad, 3 sisters, stepmom (I've been there since 10 months old), grandparents, and aunts.

So how do you respond? Even before this email we were contimplating going back to court for full custody because we feel she is unstable and it is really effecting ss. We also considered offering her extra rent money montly so she would move to Naples. We hate going to court....open to all suggestions, input, what could happen? Could she just up and move with their son? We don't think so but you never know.

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We are not trying to take custody bc she wants to move. we considered it recently prior to the moving information bc we are concerned. we dont feel taking child away from his mother is in his best interest so it would have to get really bad for us to act on filing for custody. we want things to stay the same or them to move back to naples. she has always lived near us why move now? he is 7 we all have a bond but we are willing to hear her options. is anyone in this situation and can offer out positives for the move or negatives that would be really helpful when making such a tpugh decision.

Thanks ladies. We do have a very good attoney and have been to court once and mediation several times. Its expensive and that's the only reason we try to resolve issues among ourselves as adults first. I think his documents state she can't take him out of the state of Fl which Fl is a big state so even if she doesn't go to Texas we run the risk of her moving to north Fl to be closer to her parents when they move. They have joint custody but she has him more. I believe it works out to be about 60% for her and 40% for us. We don't live in the same county or school district which really stinks. I want to offer her all the help she needs to move her to Naples but to be honest I don't think she will take it. She wants to move to Texas for herself and is using family, cost of living, and job as her reasons. 2 years ago she got let go and didn't find another job by the beginning of the next school year. I had interviews set up for her in Naples with former principals I knew and she didn't even bother going. I pretty much was handing her a job, all she had to do was show up and answer the questions correctly. I also had a house I was trying to sell that I offered to rent to her for cheap. She is very proud and didn't want to accept any help from me and bottom line she doesn't want to live in the same area as us. She hates us even though we are all very civil...she hates us and is super jeolous that we have a stable family and her son loves being with us. So I don't know what will happen. This is all pretty scary but we will roll with the punches as we always do and hope for the best.

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J.K.

answers from Minneapolis on

It sounds like she's just trying to have the discussion as its unlikely that legally she could just up and move with him. Review the decree though as not everyone has restrictions on moving. I, myself, am the school placement parent so I could move and my children would attend school wherever I live.
Don't go into the meeting with guns blazing but be open to the discussion. Yes, there is what you can legally do, but it sounds like you'd like a resolution rather than forcing the "legal" part.
Talk to her about moving closer to you and job opportunities as you seem to have first-hand knowledge on that. I would even offer the additional money to have them living in Naples as that sounds like it would really be the best option for all of you and it would be offset by not driving or potentially flying. That would put him in the same community and afford you the option of attending games, conferences, doing sleepovers, etc. and truly sharing more time with him. Especially with his mothers issues, you would be right there to observe and step in at a moment's notice.

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R.J.

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Wait a sec... Let me get this straight:

Your husband is threatening to sue for full custody, rather than let the custodial parent move.

4 days a MONTH???
And he's pulling a show stopper, "I'll take your kid unless you do what I want" JERK move.

Let the poor woman move to Texas. Without gutting her. "School Breaks" will be more time than is currently spent, even summer break would be.

If you guys had full custody. Sure.
If you guys had half custody. I can still see that.
But being UNWILLING to look at "How can we make this work" but instead

"Nope, you move, you lose your kid."

She takes holidays, she loses 80% of her time.
YOU take holidays, you GAIN time.

This just feels like manipulation on your husbands part.
He'd gain more time with his kid by doing school breaks... But doesn't want THAT.
Oh no. Its the only thing she won't agree to?

If my ex offered me almost double my current time with my child, the only caveat is that he'd be in Antartica/ Portugal/ NY (wherever) during dad's time?

Id LEAP at that chance to be with my son more.

What kind of game is your husband playing?

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K.P.

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I don't think she can just up and move because it will violate the custody agreement. I would suggest that you reach out to your attorney and find out what your husband's rights actually are and go from there.

You could petition for full custody, but you would have to PROVE that she's unfit to be his mother.

I do believe, though, that she cannot just move without a judge agreeing to redo the custody agreement. If you feel that it is not in your child's best interest, then be prepared to justify that.

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M.C.

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Any move beyond a certain travel time has to be approved by the court as an amendment to the child custody agreement, with both parties signing off on it.

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M.S.

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You sound very nice and thoughtful, and that is really great, but I think you need to let the mother decide what she wants to do, and then work something out from there. Its not right for you guys to be able to dictate her life like this. She has a right to live her life where she wants to, just the same as you do. What you are basically saying here is that if she wants to move somewhere inconvenient for your family, you will claim she is an unfit mother and try to take custody from her. That is just so wrong. Because if she REALLY was an unfit mother you would have dealt with that already right? So, she is not, but you are ready to pull that card on her if she does not do what you want her to do. Think about that.

Look, I get that it would be very sad for you guys to see SS move farther away, but and the end of the day she is his mother! And he lives with her the VAST majority of the time. And she deserves to be able to live her own life. Extended family can be a wonderful support system. Its not like you guys could not work out a visitation schedule, and in fact with longer visits you might actually net more time spent together.

If you do nothing else, please re-think your whole idea of trying to take custody away based on if or where she moves.

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J.M.

answers from Philadelphia on

be proactive and make sure its in your custody papaers how far someone can move. if its not go to court and have it put in there. i would think offering to help with rent if its higher then x amount and offering to help her find a job is more than fair. hois relationship with his immediate family trumps aunts and uncles who he doesnt know. she can visit them if she wants but not move your son away J. because she wants friends.
in the meantime see about trying to get her to go to the doctor. taking your son away from his mom isnt going to be good for him either. she needs to get healthy for him and live in a good distance to you guys.

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G.J.

answers from Panama City on

Unless your husband gives his permission, in writting to the courts, she can not move out of state. However, like you mentioned, that leaves the whole state of Florida to move around in. She can try to petition the courts to overrule your husband but she would have to prove that your stepson's welfare would be much improved if he moved and that he would be better off with reduced time with his father.

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T.S.

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Sounds like you guys are all well on your way to handling this like adults :)
She wants to meet an talk it through with your husband. Awesome.
You should talk with your husband first and work through some options that you would be okay with so that when he meets with her he has it all thought through.

Legally, she has a right to move anywhere she wants to. The question is whether your step-son moves with her or moves in with you. If she has primary physical custody (and if you're only taking ss eow, he's physically with her about 87% of the time... and the fact that your dh is allowed more time, but cut back because of scheduling is more likely to work AGAINST him than for him because he's willingly not spending the time he has), the presumption is that he will go wherever she goes. Your husband can petition for a change in custody, but If she's had primary physical custody up until now, it's unlikely that will change simply because of the move, unless you can show that it would put an undue strain on his relationship with your husband, or that his mom isn't able to care for him in Texas.

When I moved from California to Maryland with my son I already had full physical custody of my son. The process was basically that I said I was moving, filled with the court, met with custody mediator, and judge amended custody to sole legal (even though I didn't ask for that) because my son's dad behaved badly at one hearing and then skipped the next.

It's in everyone's best interest to work together to figure out how a)they might be able to stay closer or b)you and your husband can stay connected with ss when he moves.

Good luck with this.
T.

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L.R.

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This is a question for a very experienced lawyer who handles custody cases, not for us. If you don't already have such a lawyer -- get one immediately.

You will need a good attorney who can make the legal case (not an emotional case, a real legal case that willl stand up with a family court judge) for the mom's instability and its effect on the son.

Don't be afraid to go to court. Parents who are afraid to get good lawyers and go to court are parents who sometimes end up having to go to court anyway if the custodial parent makes the move without consultation. If she is as unstable and depressed as you say (and you don't give details) she might make poor and emotionally driven choices such as just leaving with him. I'm not saying she'd do it out of spite or anger -- it sounds more like she is lonely and that might cause her to do things based on her loneliness and depression rather than on good sense.

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H.M.

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As long as it's in the custody agreement that she can't move without your husbands concent don't let her guilt him into saying yes. To me it sounds like you need to take her back to court.

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S.H.

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How old is your SS?
If he is an older child... can he not, also, "say" or write, what his wishes are?
Don't know if the custody courts take these things into consideration.

Ditto the reply below.

If she just ups and moves with him, she can't just do that without legal approval right and change of custody etc.?
Then she'd almost be "kidnapping" him etc.

Your Husband needs an Attorney.
Doesn't any custody changes, require court, approval?

R.H.

answers from Houston on

Come on, no step mom is THAT concerned.

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