Possible Sleep Talking? Sleep Disturbance?

Updated on January 07, 2010
S.L. asks from Aptos, CA
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My DD is three and a half years old. She recently (mid-Dec)started sleeping all night in her own bed. For about a year, she'd go to bed in her room, and then wander into our room about 1am or so and crawl in with my husband and me. We never minded this, but thought we'd take a stab at trying to get her to stay in her bed all night. I will be starting a new career soon as a nurse and expect I'll be working the night shift as a newbie, so getting DD to stay in her bed all night would be helpful. But we never pushed it. We offered her a reward on the mornings she slept in her own bed all night, and made no mention of it if she didn't. It was working really well. Most nights she stayed in her room. Then about a week ago, I got very sick--again--with the same cold we all seem to be passing around and around. Hoping not to get my DD sick again, I told her that if she came into our room, I was going to give her big kisses and snuggles and then walk her back to her room. I asked her if she felt OK with this and that it didn't mean I didn't love her, but just that mommy is sick again and I don't want her to get sick, too. She came in that night, and I walked her back to her room, gave kisses and cuddles, and tucked her in. She didn't fuss and said night-night in a cheery voice and fell back asleep in her room. Sounds like it's going beautifully, right? Well, every few nights these past few weeks, DD has been waking up crying about an hour after going to sleep. She cries out, "Mommy! No! I want it! I want it!" I have gone rushing in and found her sweaty and moving around a bit, but still in bed, eyes closed or mostly closed. I've picked her up and tried to console her, but she doesn't seem to really wake up completely. She still cries that she wants it, and seems to get more agitated. I rocked her and after about 4 minutes, she yawns several times and instantly gets quiet and goes back to sleep for the rest of the night. I know that it must have something to do with her sleep cycle because it happens about 60 to 70 minutes after she goes to bed, like clockwork. Tonight I thought I'd see if she'd go back to sleep without any intervention and, sure enough, she cried, called out the same as before, yawned several times and went right back to sleep. I went in a few minutes later and she was sound asleep. Are these sleep terrors? Do they have anything to do with the change in her sleeping arrangement? It's very distressing to her my child crying out like that. "No! No, Mommy!" It makes me feel terrible. We have a great relationship, but it sounds terrible hearing her scream no, no like that. I tried telling my husband that she's probably talking in her sleep; I did as a child, but I never screamed and cried. But he says that because she is crying, something is obviously upsetting her. We are both home with her all day, she doesn't attend day care, and is only occasionally babysat by either my mother or my MIL, both of whom adore her and treat her very well. Help! What is going on?!

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Wow! What great responses! I feel so much better hearing all your experiences! I did some research, too, and found that DD's experience fits the description of night terrors perfectly. It's good to know they are not caused by some sort of emotional conflict or cognitive issues. I took the advice of several Mamas and tried putting DD down a little earlier tonight. She doesn't take naps anymore (I tried to keep them, but when I went back to school 2 yrs ago, my mom and MIL stopped putting DD down for naps altogether and since then I just can't get her to nap. We have "quiet activity" time instead), but I think a recent growth spurt is making her more tired. I can see she starts looking tired in the late afternoon. So far, so good: DD's been asleep for hours without a peep! Thanks again, everyone! I can't tell you how relieved I feel.

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K.B.

answers from San Francisco on

These are indeed Night Terrors and probably have little or nothing to do with her sleeping arrangements. My brother had them bad growing up (still does occasionally) and now my 7-year-old son has them, they are hereditary from what I can tell, so perhaps you had a version of it and now she does. My brother's got pretty crazy, with lots of running around into things and hurting himself. For my son, he does come out of his room, but is rather calm and I can walk him back easily. I think they started around the same age, when imagination really takes off and they can go into lots of scary and strange dream lands. for my son, it comes and goes, although he has had one every night this week, sadly. (mostly unintelligible, sometimes phrases come through that suggest frightening dreams, but often not -- last's night phrase was "no snaggletooth", the word that's been thrown around since he lost his front tooth.) He goes through stretches where it doesn't happen, then when lots is going on or things are in upheaval, they re-appear. I will always expect it when he's overtired and exhausted. Right now, it's probably going back to school after two weeks off, with lots of video games and free play turning back into school work and no TV. You can often head them off if you wake her gently after being asleep for 50 minutes, just before they usually happen. It's enough to restart her and send her back to sleep soundly. You can also try a few days of putting her to bed earlier, to ensure she's not overtired when she's hitting the pillow. Believe me I know how hard it is, just try to relax and go with it -- sit with her, stroke her hair, "ssshhhh it's OK, Mama's here" -- it won't magically stop it, but you'll feel better watching her calm. Bear in mind that this happens to lots of kids, there is nothing wrong with her, and it's going to be OK.

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E.B.

answers from San Francisco on

My son had night terrors at that age, too. It seemed to occur more on hot summer nights or if his pajamas were too warm. (We noticed he was usually very sweaty when he had them). We stopped putting footed pjs on him and made sure his room was cool in the summer and the terrors became less frequent and then eventually went away completely. (Or he just grew out of them!) Who knows. I bet by age 6 or 7 she will not have any.

I would agree that it could be related to over-tiredness too. Usually the summer ones came after a day of swimming with no naps.

My brother had them as a child, too. Your daughter will grow out of it, and like the others said, she will not remember a thing. Hang in there!

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K.G.

answers from San Francisco on

I have two 3 year old girls. One of them has gone through this recently. Look up, night terrors. For a while she was screaming and crying out in her sleep and I would go in her room and she would be sleeping. I also have 2 11 year old girls. (two sets of twins) One of the older girls did the same when she was 3/4 but hers was much worse. In fact she would sit up screaming. We were told it was night terrors.

Our 3 year old daugthers come in to bed with us most nights. Sometimes we put them back sometimes we don't. The sleeping with mom and dad or lack of sleeping with mom and dad are not causing her to have nightmares. I have several friends who's children have gone through the same thing. It's a short lived phase usually. Don't worry Mama. You're not causing it.

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A.A.

answers from San Francisco on

Sounds like night terrors. Try waking her up about 45 to 50 min after she goes to bed to break her sleep cycle. See if that helps for a couple of nights......

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M.K.

answers from Chico on

My son went through this very same thing! He cried and was inconsolable for 10-15 minutes every night: I couldn't wake him and he swatted anyone away if they tried to touch him. The only link I found was that he cried more if he didn't go pee before bed... But he cried any way. I can't remember how long it lasted, but it felt like a long time! Maybe 6-8 months? He outgrew it, though. Now he is almost 6 and doesn't cry out.

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J.K.

answers from Redding on

not sure if this applies at all, but my son is more prone to these outbursts when he is not getting enough sleep in general.
i had night terrors myself and was more prone when my body was stressed. i outgrew them after a few years of only sporadic incidents.
your attitude/reaction seems very calm and like it is working. i do not think this means something is bothering her on a bigger level.

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T.M.

answers from Fresno on

That definitely sounds like night terrors. My dd who is 3 had those for a while. Like you I was very concerned and at first didn't realize what was going on so I would wake her which is the wrong thing to do. She would get them when overly tired. She would sit up even with her eyes open and cry, scream, talk and then seconds later be back to deep sleep. I talked with my doctor and she said there is nothing to be concerned about. Just make sure she can't hurt herself. DD doesn't even know what happened/never remembers.

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