"Weaning" from Nightime Sleep Pants?

Updated on August 11, 2011
P.G. asks from San Antonio, TX
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My son is 4 and daytime potty trained for over a year. Night time, not really. I haven't pushed it cause I've read that being physiologically ready to not pee at night can be anywhere from 3yrs to 6 years old. My husband is worried that the sleep pants (that's what I call them) are "training" him that it's ok to pee at night. My son usually wakes up at least once during the night - he's not a great sleeper. I'm the one who has to wake up and change the sheets if he pees - I sleep lighter, and my husband is working full time AND going to school, so I am OK with that. I work not-quite full time.

I'm a first time mom and and he's my only child, so of course I sometimes wonder if I'm too big of a softy, or doing something wrong.

I do want to help him sleep through the night without peeing. I don't want to say no drinking at all, cause when you're thirsty you're thirsty, but I do want to start cutting back so he won't pee at night. I'm thinking it might help with the waking up cause he may be waking up to pee but not making it.

Do you have any suggestions to gradually train a kiddo to not drink as much later in the day? Am I expecting him to be dry at night too early, or am I "babying" him by not pushing the night-time training?

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G.B.

answers from Oklahoma City on

It's not up to him or you when he is able to stay dry at night. He will be ready when he is ready. My 12 year old grandson wet the bed until last year, every night. He has been to docs and they all said he just didn't have the ability.

I can honestly say I have much better things to do with my days than washing bedding every day, sheets, blankets, pillows, mattress pads, etc...my time is worth something. Decreasing fluids was also something the docs said doesn't make any difference. If they don't have that muscle control they don't have it. It makes not difference in whether they pee or not.

I recommend telling hubby that you'll do the underwear at night if he'll take on the extra laundry. Pull ups for over night work and keep everything dry. We make the kids go pee right after brushing their teeth and then off to bed. They pull ups are usually are wet when they wake up but their clothes and bed are dry.

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D.W.

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You absolutely can not night time train. Their body has to be physically and neurologically able to either hold urine all night or wake them up to go. The body also has to produce a hormone to aid in this process. There is no way to force that.

If he doesn't have the physical/neuro abilities yet (and many, many kids don't at age 4-none of the boys in my son's preschool class did) all you will be left with is a huge mess in the morning by not using the night trainer/diapers. And a very upset child because he is wet and smells like pee. And you probably won't enjoy the extra laundry.

My son was just shy of 5 before he started staying dry at night. The doc said at his 4 year old check up that if it was still happening at his 6 year check up then we would discuss options.

Just relax, obviously don't flood him with liquids late in the evening, have him pee right before bed as a good habit to get into and let his body mature.

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B.C.

answers from Norfolk on

He's ready for underpants at night when he wakes up dry 2 weeks in a row.
My son was day trained at 3 1/2 but he was 7 before he could stay dry at night.
He slept so deeply he never woke up when he had to pee.
Some kids having wetting the bed issues till they are 11 or 12.
I just didn't want to deal with a wet bed all the time, so we didn't shame him or make a big deal about it.
Letting him wet the bed won't mature his bladder any faster.

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S.H.

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Peeing at night is involuntary.
Night time dryness... is NOT something that is BIOLOGICALLY attained, until even 7 years old.
This is per Pediatricians.

Your son is so young.
Their body, physiologically, is STILL developing.

My son is 4 almost 5. He wears a night time diaper. NO big deal.
My daughter was already 5 years old, by the time she started to be dry at night. No big deal.
My Husband, was older than that, when he was a child. Before he was dry at night. NO big deal.

It is about PHYSIOLOGICAL/BIOLOGICAL development of the organs. Not a child's age.

Talk to your Pediatrician.

BUY and use, a WATERPROOF bed pad, to put directly under him at night. I do that with BOTH my kids. In case of leaks or accidents.
NO big deal.
I got 4 of them from Amazon.

KIDS WILL PEE.
KIDS WILL HAVE ACCIDENTS.
It is childhood.
Even ALL of my daughter's Preschool/Kindergarten AND 1st Grade Teachers, told me that. BUT they said the parents will not admit that their child has accidents or wears night time diapers... because they are too embarrassed.
But it is childhood. They have accidents. They pee.
You cannot control that.

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E.J.

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That's a tough one... I was like you and I didn't push the overnight dry time. We used pull ups that we called "big boy pants". I stopped the pull ups when he began to have dry pants on a consistent basis. I think he was 5 when I decided that he could try w/out. Wet sheets in the middle of the night are no fun to deal with

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J.C.

answers from New York on

He's 4 so you can have a talk with him. If you have to go, call momy and I will take you to the bathroom. Then bribe him a little.

Also, use a protective covering on the bed (a waterproof pad). So if he pees on that, you only have to remove it and wash it (not all of the sheets).

Keep in mind that at 4, it's ok to still use a pull up overnight.

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S.B.

answers from Dallas on

My children are 2 (3 in October) and 5. The two year old has occasional accidents (once a month or so) and my older child has been nighttime potty trained since around 3. With both of my kids, I had no expectations of potty training. I was simply tired of spending money on nighttime pull ups and diapers. We do not limit fluids. Both of my kids are like their dad and he gets VERY thirsty at night. They both have spill proof water cups by their beds every night. I also don't believe in waking kids up to go to the restroom. For me, that was a disaster, my kids fought it and all I managed to do was disrupt their sleep. I have them use the restroom before bed. I double sheeted their beds (I still do my daughters) and leave a change of clothes out with clean underwear. There is a waterproof pad in between the layers. If they wake me up because of an accident, we simply change clothes and pull off the dirty sheets. I leave them in the laundry room and I go to bed. The whole process takes less than five minutes. It's no big deal.(It's especially easy right now, with all these 100 degree days, I put my kids to bed in just undies, no pjs to change). I had no expectations of night time potty training, but both of them caught on pretty quickly. We recently went on vacation and put our daughter in pull ups, just in case. I didn't want to ruin my sister's furniture. She peed that diaper every night, so I think there is something to the idea that they give a kid "permission" to pee. I say try it for a week or two. Be patient and see what happens. If he is really not ready, you can always go back to the sleeping pants (just don't make a big deal out of the underwear so he doesn't see them as something "babyish).

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S.H.

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just do it! If he's been trained for over a year, he's fully aware of how the system works....

& as a head's up, when he goes off to KG...that's when the sleepovers begin....& you'll want the pull-ups gone waaay before then. Peace.

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C.M.

answers from St. Louis on

My daughter will be four this weekend and for about the past three months she has had maybe 1 accident per night. Before that it was one every night or every other night. We stopped liquids after dinner. Before bed, she's allowed a drink and then right when I turn off the lights every night (without fail) she wants a drink so I give her a small one. She, too, wakes up at night and I used to take her to the bathroom. Now I just ask if she has to go and she will when she has to. She has not had an accident in at least 2 weeks. I think they just 'get it' one day (their bodies). So while I would not 'stop' liquids (I didn't really like that idea either) - don't have a cup readily availalble and full for him around after dinner. If he asks for a drink, give him a small one. And go from there!!

I do not think you are babying him by the way!

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D.D.

answers from Denver on

You've already gotten the answer from a few ladies that indicates that your child's body/brain have not matured to the point that night-time dryness is happening, or even possible. I absolutely agree with them. I also have a four-year-old, and he is an extremely heavy sleeper and does not get the signals that he needs to pee.

I got to where I didn't want to pay for diapers any more, so before my husband and I go to bed each night, we get our boy up and take him to use the toilet. This usually occurs about three hours after our boy has fallen asleep. We call this little ritual "squeezing the boy". His sleep is not disturbed by this little outing to the potty, and in fact thinks it is funny the next morning when his daddy tells him about their squeezing conversations. DH will ask our son if he wants to go ride bikes, swimming, watch a movie, play marbles, shave the dog (just kidding on this one) or whatever, and our boy ALWAYS says NO. Then in the morning they have a big laugh about it. 99.9% of the nights we do not have an accident, and our boy isn't wearing diapers, or pull-ups, or plastic pants or anything that is uncomfortable. But just in case, we also use a waterproof mattress cover. We have two of the covers and two sheets so if he does have an accident, we don't have to wait around for the laundry.

Keep in mind that when his body and brain mature enough, you won't have any more accidents and you certainly won't have a traumatized child because you didn't make him clean up after himself, you didn't scold him, you didn't belittle him.

Actually, the idea of taking the child to the potty several hours later is not new, as my folks had to do it for me when I was a child, and I'm a 45!

Give it a try. And tell your husband what the ladies have said about the physiological development that keeps your boy from knowing/waking enough to pee at night.

Good luck.

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M.C.

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I agree that night time is different than day and they just have to be ready for night time. My guy night trained a little before 3. Right before we moved, several months later, he started having frequent night accidents (I think stress related to move..and the fact my husband was gone for two weeks at a time at the new job/state before we all officially moved). Anyway, I was not sure what to do at first..so I just made sure he went to the bathroom before bed. I did not refuse drinks but I did not offer. During the day, he always has a cup of water out but when these accidents started, I took it away after dinner. If he asked for a drink I gave it to him but he would take sips and I would take back the cup. This did not help at all and after a few weeks, I went back to pull ups for bed time. After we were in the new house a couple of weeks and he felt relaxed he started waking dry again. I honestly think you can't train for night time...they just come to it on their own. Some are 2, 3, 4 or even older. I really think you just need to wait it out. Perhaps cloth pullups would be better on the wallet though. May want to look into it. Good Luck.

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