My Baby Would Not Wake up and Was Floppy

Oh my! That scared me just reading it! Im syre the meds may have made him drowsy but that bad? I would get a 2nd opinion because if it were my kids that would not be good enougj!

Chiropractic care can sometimes help with childhood asthma and allergies, none of this sounds normal to me in a 9 month old! My kids have been adjusted by a Chiro since birth. It's very safe and effective and worth a try before giving him more medication, and more medication, etc..my grandma had severe asthma then emphysema, and was on more medications than anyone I know..that's sad to me!

I agree with you. That's not an answer I would accept either. I'm glad he's okay for now and kudos to you for keeping on top of things. Just keep going to someone new until either it never happens again or these allergies and breathing treatments work.

1- When my son had pnemonia, he would sleep SO deeply because his little body was exhausted. Just because it's not 'normal' doesn't immediately make it 'wrong'... but I'm not trying to downplay what happened. That is a VERY scary thing, and I'm sorry you had to go through that :(

2- For your own peace of mind, invest in a movement monitor. We love our Angelcare Deluxe Movement Monitor. The peace of mind is worth every cent; I would gladly have paid triple for this thing.

3- Learn infant CPR. Just having that tool on hand will take the edge off in case anything were to ever happen.

Being sick makes energetic babies into little lumps of 'I don't feel good'... even the one's who are light sleepers. Think of the last time you were really ill... I bet you had a hard time waking up and you didn't want to move ;)

Hope the little one feels better soon!!

When my DD was 13 months old she had pnuemonia. Before the doctor diagnosed and gave her medicine she didn't sleep for almost 24 hours. I held her upright through the night on my chest while I leaned back on the couch so she could rest and breathe. Once she got antibiotics and breathing treatments and she could breathe she slept like she had never slept before. Until she became a teenager she never slept like that again either!

He's jsut catching up on much needed rest that his little body needs to get better. HE's never been sick liek this either and to get better our bodies need a great deal of rest. Let him sleep.

Trust your instincts! I would get another opinion ASAP!!!

My best advise after dealing with medical mysteries with my child.......FOLLOW YOUR MOMMY GUT!!!
You are right, you know your child best, if you feel something was not right don't let doctors dismiss you! Yes, they are doctors but they don't know everything and don't always catch everything. You are your baby's advocate and have to fight for him since he can not do so for himself.
I had a lump in my throat reading this and can not imagine how terrified you must have been! Deep sleep?? Thats BS...I have never known anyone to have a child, expecially at 9 months that you can not get some type of response from even in the deepest sleep for over 10 minutes. That is just ridicuous and shame on the doctor for dismissing this event.

I pray that this doesn't happen again and that you can get some support from the medical field!

i remember when my DD had her first asthma attack. She was alert when I brought her to the hospital, but after 2 ventolin treatments, she passed out cold, floppy like you describe, in my arms. The pediatricain there, told me she did this, because she was finally getting enough air, and was able tp sleep. Allergy meds can also cause drowsiness, maybe the new one affected him. Always get to the hospital with any respiratory distress, better to be safe than sorry. I would learn how to take his pulse, count his respirations, look for "tugging in" at the neck when he breathes, get a stethescope and have the Dr or nurse show you how to listen. keep a log of his symptoms & treatments for them. I hope he's doing ok today. Its so scary when little ones get sick.

That's one of my biggest fears. My kids are 5 years and 18 months and I still check to see if they're breathing a lot. I would at least get a second opinion. I think many drs assume that the mother is stretching the truth, or over-reacting.

One of the things that helped me relax was a baby monitor with a pad to put under the mattress. If the baby stops breathing it will set of an alarm.

The doctor may be correct that the baby was just in deep sleep, but I agree with you that he wouldn't likely have been so casual about it had it been his own child. I think you did exactly the right thing in calling 911. It's always better to overreact and be safe in such a situation, than to ignore it until it's too late.
I would take the advice of Sarah, and call another doctor for a second opinion. At the very least, it doesn't sound like the doctor you're now going to is very reassuring in his answers to you. A parent needs more that what he gave you.

I'm not sure if this will be of much help but my son is a light and restless sleeper and like clock work will wake 40 minutes after he first goes down. Recently the allergy doctor prescribed Hydroxyzine which is like Zyrtec and is supposed to cause extreme drowsiness. The first time I gave it to my son who was 8 months at the time he slept 4 hours straight without even flinching! But since then the medication has no affect on his sleep at all. So maybe it might be the medication. I know it is extremely worrying for a parent when your child doesn't wake especially when they are usually a light sleeper. When my son is sick and has breathing issues I want him to sleep next to me so I can keep a close eye but he is actually safer in his bed because we have the baby sense monitoring system. It is a little costly but worth while if your baby has asthma and breathing issues. It will sound an alarm if your baby doesn't breath or his heart stops after 6 seconds.

Good Luck.

Oh my goodness! I would have been hysterical, and that doctor would really have heard it from me... How dare he wave it off as if there is nothing to worry about?! You couldn't wake him up!

And also, pneumonia in a small child IS a big deal, no matter that he has had it before. It can be very serious, even fatal, so continue to be vigilent looking out for his health. And just because he has asthma doesn't mean that getting pneumonia frequently is normal, it's not.

But back to the doctor thing, get a second opinion ASAP. When you go, take all the medications your baby has been taking and be as detailed as possible when explaining any symptoms or health concerns.

You do not have to take one doctors word as the final one. You are the mom, and if you think something is wrong with your kid then keep after them, keep asking questions, and demanding answers, until you get them. Be your child's advocate!

Best of luck to you and your baby!

Immediately call another doctor. I am a pediatric nurse and this baby should have been immediately admitted to the hospital for observation. Good pulse ox or not, any baby who does not wake up when being jostled or rubbed or yelled at is experiencing something unusual, if not dangerous. The wheezing definitely needs to be addressed, as well.

Zyrtec for a 9 month old baby? Frankly I'm shocked that any doctor would prescribe an allergy medication for a child under 2 years old. I took Zyrtec briefly and hated it, by the way. For the entire 24 hours I was lethargic and couldn't keep my eyes open for anything. I just can't take the stuff because it pretty much puts me into hibernation and I literally can't function on it. Therefore, I never ever recommend it to anyone, let alone using it for an infant.

I would personally take him off the Zyrtec since that's the only new medication and this was a new symptom. Let your doctor know what you're doing.

Floppiness is usually a concern to Pediatricians... I'm surprised they were so 'whatever' about it. The hard to wake would have been another red flag.

Go get a second opinion.

that' very scary ~ I would find a new doctor. now.
Your little one is in my prayers!!

As with any medications even the non-drowsy kind make me sleepy.Signs to look for blue lips,low pulse rate & what was his oxygen level if it was normal I wouldn't worry babies do go into deep sleep modes along with him being ill at this time his body is fighting hard right now keep an eye on him make sure he is comfortable & let him sleep,since he isn't mine & i'm not the mommy you need to go with what you know what you feel or seek another second opinon if your not happy with the result you were given.More than likely I have a feeling they were right.read the side effects to all medications he was given call if you have any questions & drowsiness does occur

I'm glad that he was able to finally respond to you ... I'm glad that the nurse advised you to call 911.

This happened to me once when I was younger. My mom had given me some sudafed (non-drowsy) and it knocked me out! She wasn't able to wake me for 5 hours. She didn't want to 'cause alarm' so she didn't call 911. She says that she saw me breathing, so she knew I wasn't dead. (whew, that's a relief!) ... and 'just as I was about to give in and call 911 or have your Dad take you to the dr., you woke up, so I'm glad I didn't call.'

My suggestion is to follow your gut. It's okay to get second opinions. Hopefully the answer IS that his body was just that tired...

M.

Yikes! How scary! Yes, please keep your appointment with the allergy specialist. I wonder if his "deep sleeping" is a weird reaction to his meds. An ER doctor can't help with much if the symptoms are not there right in front of his face. You should mention this to your pediatrician and see if there is any other specialist you should see as well. Good luck to you, and I'm glad your little one is okay.

What a nightmare. Terrible way to spend mothers day. I am not a dr, but you make some good points. I agree with you. But maybe having pneumonia and allergies and the mix of all these medicines together, plus the exhaustion of being sick really was the cause. Maybe his body was just so exhausted. You, of course, did the right thing. But that really might be all there is to it. Keep a close eye on him, but try to not ger overworked yourself. You need to stay healthy for him.

I don't know if it helps...but I took Zyrtec once as an adult and WOW...knocked me out till 3 the next afternoon. Most people don't have a reaction to it like that, but luckily I tried it in the time before I had kids because I had to call out of work and slept like I had never slept before.

Based on the medical history, I would not accept that and would seek more info. But, I will say that when my trips were infants, one day one of my girls slept all day. Maybe 4 months old at the time. My husband called me panicing because he was sure something was wrong. She woke up for breakfast (bottle of course) at about 7:30 and then went back to sleep. She did not wake up by 12 and he was worried. She slept ALL day until about 8:30 that night. No breathing problems, you could not wake her up. Of course, when she did wake up she has one heck of an appetite. And when she woke up, it was like a normal day. I mentioned it to my ped and she also said most likely jsut a really deep sleep since no sicknesses recently.

I don't know where you live, but I would immediately get him to a Childrens Hospital. I seriously doubt that the doctor would have been happy with that explanation if it were his child and the fact that he offered such an explanation would tell me he doesn't have a clue. Get him somewhere where they specialize in children and will take all steps necessary to find out what's really going on and not dismiss you so lightly.

Oh my, that is scary! I've heard of infants being in deep sleep, mine unfortunately is a light sleeper (so am I and his dad) but what I realized is when kids are really sick, they are knocked out sleeping deep and a lot. It's their body's way of using the energy while sleeping to fix itself which it does do more efficiently while asleep. I would be kept on alert, but if the lips aren't turning blue you shouldn't worry too much about lack of oxygen. I know you're going to worry a lot anyways, but what I did when my son got croup was cosleep with him. We had a cosleeper that was like a little bed that I put in the bed I was sleeping in and just kept an eye on him. You can also find bed dividers in ebay that you slip under the cover so it's his section to sleep in so you don't have to worry too much about covers over the face or what not.

uh I think that doc got his liscense from a cracker jack box

That did not sound like a deep sleep. Be careful because sometimes people have reactions to meds. Have him checked by another doctor also.
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Zyrtec is fine for an allergy sufferer that young our pediatric allergist started my youngest on it at 9 months old. I would trust my pediatrician over a stranger on the internet any day.

My oldest has asthma and when he flares he gets very very lethargic. He is also a very deep sleeper on a good day you could change him diaper and all without him waking so imagine what it was like to wake him when he wasn't well. Er docs aren't the greatest for dealing with pediatrics unless you went to a pediatric er. Did you see your pediatrician today? I would have you don't say if you did.
If he only had zyrtec last mon and tues it's not going o effect him like that this many days later.
Oh and my son has had pneumonia several times and only had a fever with it once pneumonia can really knock them out I've had it before and I slept for a few days only waking to use the bathroom or get a drink. I think if everything at the er checked out and your baby is being treated for allergies and pneumonia there isn't much they can tell you other then follow up with your doctor.

I always go with my gut. But be sure you read up on the side effects of the Zyrtec (that is what you meant right? If Zyrtex is a different med then I apologize). My son (who is much older) takes Zyrtec daily for his allergies (he also has exercise induced asthma) and many people say they don't like taking the Zyrtec because it makes them tired. Our doctor said to give it to our son at night, and we do, so he has never complained of tiredness after taking it. Because he is asleep for the next 8 hours or so anyway. But perhaps it caused a deeper sleep than you have seen before in your baby?
Again, I am not in any way saying to discount your gut feelings on this. But it is possible that your doctor or the ER staff is thinking that that particular medication could have contributed to his lethargy. Ask them. Then decide if that is a "good enough" reason or whether you want to consider altering the medications your son is on.