Scared of Being Manipulated by Husband Again, Please Pray for Mom & 2Yr Old Son

Updated on February 24, 2010
C.C. asks from Chattanooga, TN
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My husband and I decided to relocate back to my hometown together. The plan was for our son & I to come first to get things established(we thought it would be easier since I have family & support here, & I know the area). I had everything set up & ready to go, but for reasons known only to him he decided not to move, so many lies & excuses, asked me to send him $(lied about what the $ was for), refused to get health insurance for our son, problems keeping a job(lied about having a 2nd job for 7 months), gave away our savings to his high school buddy to help him pay his back child support, online gambling and lottery addiction, sold our furniture, I have had to change all my passwords - he gets into my cell, bank, & email accts, so many things I just don't understand. Things has admitted to but won't take personal responsibility for. What gets me the worst is that he hasn't helped support our 2yr old son at all. I started distancing myself, he filed for divorce, said so many hurtful things about me as a person and a mother, basically trying to prove me unfit, we had our temp hearing & after that he decided he wants to reconcile. He says that he is sorry & he doesn't know why he has acted like this, he's was scared & didn't now what to do, that he didn't mean the horrible things he said, & of course he loves me & wants his family back. I'm thrilled if he takes it serious and the past behavior stops, but this is not the first go round we have been through. I never know what he will say or do next, it's an emotional roller coaster every day. He got a transfer with his job and has moved here. He is staying in a hotel close by, which is good because I believe that our son should know his dad no matter what, but at the same time I am not sure that I can even trust him with our son. - ex: he found a car seat 2nd hand, its an infant seat w/o the base & he says it's fine, I have tried to have him get it inspected but he won't, he knows about the agencies who help provide safe transport, so for now he is not allowed to have our son in the car(that I have been paying the note on the entire time). I am scared for what the future holds, with him it's all or nothing if he doesn't have his family with him constantly - the divorce is back on, if I can't be emotionally and physically available it's back on, etc. If we get into a disagreement on just about anything its 'My visitation starts this day and I'll bring him back to you on this day - like he is manipulating and trying to use being with my son against me just to get me to cave. I have never stopped him from seeing our son, even made several 20 hr round trips so he could see our son & he would come here to see him. I just can't bring myself to jump back into it like that, to take my son into an unhealthy - unhappy marriage that may not work out, I just can't risk his stability & safety of where we are now, & the life that we have started to build. He doesn't seem to understand that his actions have huge consequences. I would love to see our marriage be saved. I have asked him to go to counseling(I have already started), start going to church with me, build my trust back, keep a job, & do what he says he is going to do, that I need to see that he can provide a safe & stable home, support his family, emotionally, mentally. I have explained how I feel & why I feel this way, what I need to see from him but he just doesn't get it. To him I don't have a reason to have these feelings and I should just go on his word that he can't make the same mistakes again - it's like he doesn't see reality & the rules just shouldn't apply to him. The hardest obstacle for me is we don't have the same values as people. Thank you in advance to anyone who offers advise or just reads my story and says a small prayer for me and my son.

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So What Happened?

My husband is still here, staying in different hotels. My son and I are still living at my moms house, and I do not plan on going anywhere. He did file for dismissal & I have the voluntary dismissal from his attorney & mine has been filed, I am just waiting on the judge to sign. He is looking for an apt or perm place to stay, of course wanting us to move in with him - just an empty place, he left everything in a storage unit in AR. He is wanting to put my name, dl, & ssn on the lease even though I have told him not to. I have taken our son to see him several times, on our visits he spends more time trying to reason with me as to his good intentions, new promises ect. I went to see him alone after our son was asleep, my mom was here & new where I would be. Things happened that I voiced over & over I didn't want to do & we were not ready for, but if I didn't he was going to take my son back to live in AR with him(the house he would be staying in is a hazard, needs to be condemned). I didn't know what else to do. I can't let him take a 2 yr old on a 500+ mile trip in the car seat he has back to a house that isn't safe in any way to live in). For know I guess I just have to bide my time and try to keep things stable for my son. I have contacted a couple of attorney's locally but I can't afford the retainers & I am still paying off the Attorney I had in AR. I have contacted legal aid, given them a very brief description & was told that they would have to call me back, and would only be able to take my case if there was abuse. I am also trying to get a temp order of custody. Thank all of you again for your prayers & support. I would appreciate any other advise or support you could offer. Mainly just keep us in your prayers, thank you.

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T.K.

answers from Dallas on

I hate to start this on a negative note, but girl, it's time to cut your losses. Believe me, I know how you feel. I know it's annoying when people say that but without going into it all, let's just say I know what it feels like to be manipulated and controlled by a man who only thinks about himself and uses kids as pawns. He doesn't care about you the way you need him to. He never will. Let yourself hurt, let yourself cry, let yourself heal and then when you're ready, put your big girl panties on and tackle life as a single mom. You basically already are, you just happen to be married on paper. Don't worry about his needs or feelings, just focus on you and your little one.

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R.M.

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It would be a huge mistake to just accept him at his word and take him back. I would go through with the divorce. His word isn't good for anything right now. He might actually change, but it is doubtful. If he does, you could always try again. But chances are it would end up the same way. Anyone who treats you like that and then turns it back around on you is being abusive. You don't want your child growing up with that example. A kid does not need to have two parents at home if the relationship is unhealthy. You can set a better example by yourself than your husband ever could. If he is unwilling to go to counseling with you or even get a reliable carseat, he is not willing to change. Does he not realize an infant seat can't be used on a 2 yr old? I would not go out of my way to accomodate any of his needs. He needs to step up and take responsibility for his own actions, and until he does, he is not worthy of you. It's great you have a support network in town, because I honestly don't think you would be better off back with him. A big thing that stands out to me is that you say you don't even have the same values. You have to have that common ground, even if you can work through the other things, that won't change. It's pretty obvious you don't have the same values from what you write. I am sorry that I can't offer any advice on how to work on your marriage. I just think you and your son deserve better. Prayer and hugs sent your way.

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T.V.

answers from San Francisco on

AFTER READING YOUR SO WHAT HAPPENED:

Going to see him alone was and is a foolish and dangerous thing to do. When you say "things happened" bascially that translates into your were forced to have sex with an abuser---this is a close to rape as it gets.

He can't just run off with your son, especially since you have physical custody of the child. You need police intervention and an "emergency" restraining order (fees can be waived) since you have no source of income.

Do not take your child to a hotel room to visit his father. In fact since you have been threatened and he has threatened to kidnap your child and take him accross state lines, I would end all visitation until court ordered visitation is in place. You should ask for "supervised" visits only and you should NOT be the one "supervising"....you don't need to be anywhere near this guy as long as he is able to so easily manipulate you.

Well I am certainly praying for you and you need to pray for guidance and good judgement for the safety and well being of you and your child.

Blessings......

C.,

You certainly have been through the ringer with this man. It’s good that you are going to church and hopefully you can get solid counseling there with a licensed family counselor.

Your husband has demonstrated over and over that he is not a responsible person, parent or adult. While I hate to see a marriage end in divorce, that is sometimes the best solution for all concerned, especially the children. The man sounds pretty much like a *sociopath and a pathological lier.


Regarding visitation, the fact that he refused to have a car seat inspection for a used car seat to be used by his child makes him ineligible to “unsupervised” and/or overnight visitation with his child. I suggest getting a custody order in place.

It is time for you to do a lot of soul searching and get serious therapy. Once that has happened if you still believe “this marriage can be saved”, tell your husband if he can establish himself in town, hold a job, pay child support, attend and complete anger management, addiction and parenting courses, attend church regularly for at least one year, you will consider getting back together.

Yes, I will pray a big prayer for you and your family including your husband.

Blessings……

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A.A.

answers from Chicago on

C. I have read your story and I will pray for you and your son. But right now you need more than prayers. I am not a big advocate for divorce and I do believe in trying to save a marriage, but not if the cost is you and your son's self-worth. This man sounds like nothing but bad news, and I don't see any redeeming behavior here for him. Honestly I think his influence and involvement with your son is going to do more harm than good. I think I would let him see your son if he goes out of his way to some and visit, but I wouldn't be driving him 20 hours to see his father. I would proceed with the divorce and absolutely make sure you get it set for custody of your son in regards to visitation and child support. This is not a healthy relationship for you and ultimately a bad role model for your son. Kids who grow up in a home with an irresponsible parent like this will have a harder time as adults. IMO-It is better for your son to have one healthy, responsible, secure, loving parent than to have two parents who just can't get it together. At this point your husband needs to clean up his act and be a good father and just focus on parenting. Until he does that, I would not even consider a reconciliation with this man---you deserve better and so does your son. Best of luck!

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B.J.

answers from Rochester on

Prayers sent. I hope thinks get better what ever you decide to do. I know at one time in my time I felt that everything was a loss and things would never get better.... Sometimes things just are greener on the other side. Things will get better is may just take longer then what you had hoped for.

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S.M.

answers from Washington DC on

Hmmm... My father went through a period of time (about 20 years!) where he was completely clueless about what it means to be responsible for other people and families. You mentioned that he "just doesn't get it," and believe it, he just doesn't. Maybe we should feel sorry for people who don't -- for my dad, it had a lot to do with coming from a nightmarish childhood. My father required a major crisis in his life to break him down and make him realize he needed counseling. My recommendation is to do just what you're doing -- gain strength from the social network of your family and friends, and never welcome him back into your heart until he has agreed to go to counseling (and to KEEP going to counseling, trying new counselors, etc., until he finds something that works). You are in the position to help this lost person, but it IS NOT your responsibility to. I think you're handling this situation great, good for you! Stick to your rules and don't let him change your mind.

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F.S.

answers from St. Louis on

I will pray for you and your son. However alot of people think that just praying for good things to happen is enough, you must act on the situation and make the best choice for your son first and you second. Your husband sounds like he needs alot of help and until he gets it I would steer very clear from him!!! Yes your son should have a father in his life but only if he can be a father and it does not sound like he can, I never really knew my father and I am greatful for that because he was insane very much like you describe your husband. I grew up happier with less drama and a stable mother. Hope this helps.

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A.M.

answers from Washington DC on

Dear Mom,

What you need right now is to be surrounded by strong people around you, if your family is supporting of you and your child you will need them now more than ever. It is extremely difficult to let go of someone with whom you have been with for a long time, especially after creating a life together. As a mom you begin to feel a sense of guilt, "if i leave him what will me daughter/son go through" in the end doing what is best for not only your son but you as well is what matters the most. I am a firm believer that you have to feel happy with yourself and your relationships in order to especially be the best mommy you can be. I hope you find some comfort in knowing you are and will not be alone, many mommies have gone through the same thing and have made it just fine. Prayers going your way.

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L.L.

answers from Orlando on

Just from reading what you wrote it does not sound like a good relationship at all! I would recomend getting an attorney, especially if you do not feel safe with him being with your son alone. I'm sorry, I don't have any real advice as I have not ever been in your situation but I will pray for you. From what you described it doesn't sound like a safe situation for you or your son to be in. I'm sorry.

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