Extreme Fear of Weather

Updated on July 01, 2011
M.P. asks from Columbus, OH
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Hello!

My 4 1/2 year old daughter has has always had extreme behaviors. She's a disturbed sleeper, she makes impulsive, often fearless decisions, and seems to have an inability to listen at times and follow direction. This lead us a few months ago to begin seeing a counselor to try to find some support and strategies for her. After working with the counselor for a while indicated that she likely has ADHD and we began to look at behavior based strategies to help her.

Then, a little more than a month ago, her intense behaviors took a turn. She now has extreme weather anxiety. I'm not sure where it came from. While we try to keep them away from the very sad and troubling news, she could have seen something on the news. We've had storms where we live, but we've never been in a scary or unsafe situation. At first her anxiety slowed her down but she could still engage. She'd reluctantly go outside but could be distracted.

Now, she cries at the sheer idea of going outside. She is obsessive about the idea that there might possibly be a storm or rain. She is in a pre-k program which has become a nightmare. She cries all day because she knows at some point there will be recess. I can tell that she's causing stress on the teacher and the classmates.

We talk about the weather in positive terms now. Why we need rain and such. We also talk about how we live in a very safe space and that we know what to do if a strong storm comes. We talk about the weather forcast to understand what to expect instead of just guessing there might be a storm.

It isn't helping at all.

The counselor's office is going to observe her at school tomorrow so they can see her consumed by the anxiety. It is becoming so frustrating, confusing and heartbreaking.

Has anyone every experienced anything like this? Any tips or suggestions?

Thanks so much!

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B.M.

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I don't have any experience with ADHD, but I do have experience with OCD and this sounds quite similar.

This may be helpful or not - it depends on how verbal she is, and where her critical thinking skills are.

Can you take her through an ENTIRE worst-case scenario planning exercise? With me, sometimes this was the ONLY thing that would help.

It's actually kind of simple, but she's going to bounce all over the place while you're doing it. It's just a forward advancement of what will happen until she gets to the part she can control OR you get to what she's actually scared of and then deal with that.

I'm not sure what her typical responses are, but you want to get to the ROOT of it, which is beyond the fear (and usually it has to do with her or someone she loves being unsafe or dying / or her feeling like she's not worth being saved - at least in all the books I've read that's usually where this exercise ends up). Then - you figure out what SHE thinks she can control and/or do when the event happens to circumvent the actual catastrophe she thinks will occur.
If her fear is raining so hard that it floods and she drowns, or mommy drowns, or no one saves her..... then strategize where she can go that will be safe outside (top of the jungle gym, for example). But she has to then be able to get herself off the jungle gym to go back inside as well.

Just an FYI - and again, this may not relate cuz I don't know that much about ADHD, but KEEPING information away can also be bad - then she feels like you aren't being honest with her. It's a horrible catch-22.

Here's the other deal. This ISN'T rational. But to HER it is, so you have to use HER logic.... not yours.

Good Luck.

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R.J.

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Ohhhhh..... yeahhhhhh.

Heightened emotional responses, hyperfocus, and a VERY vivid imagination come part and parcel with ADHD.

AKA... I deal with these sorts of things with myself as an adult, and REALLY deal with them with my son (who is now 8).

At your daughter's age; it was "Other people following the rules", particularly driving, but any rule designed to keep people safe. The year prior (when he was first reading) it was genocide (people don't get that early readers read EVERYTHING).

Just last year it was the stupid rash of teen suicides being reported on the news.

Each one of these episodes it's taken less and less time to coax kiddo through them. I'm often reminded, both being and parenting ADHD, of a Winston Churchill quote;

"When you're going through hell... keep going!"

Neurotypical kids will often just "trust" in the god like powers of adults around them, or forget, or be distracted (and they say WE'RE distractible, hmph!). But with ADHD kids, when they latch onto a concept, it's often with bear trap intensity. The only way to 'fix' the problem, is to actually deal with it, on a daily basis, in great detail and compassion, head on. You just have to 'keep going'. They aren't going to believe "It's nice outside" or "Not everyone's a bully." They're going to focus on the possibilities, and those possibilities need to be thoroughly gone through to reach a point of emotional calm.

Last year's rash of suicides was the 'fastest' we were able to get through. Only 3 or 4 months a couple times a week. We had a really good foundation built from the driving thing, and the rules thing, and the other 'things' kiddo has latched onto. The first took 2 solid years to work through. Oy. BUT BUT BUT, not all at the same decible. The full on meltdowns, even from the beginning only lasted a few weeks. Then the meltdowns shifted into simple panic attacks. Then just anxiety. (That's the part that took about 2 years to soothe completely). Then (and now) just hyperawareness. I'm completely and totally convinced that my son is going to be either a cop or a journalist when he grows up. He is VERY hyperaware of what other people are doing, and whether it's "right" or not.

Part of what helped him enourmously during each of these episodes is actually just that; career exploration. Really digging in and learning about first the people whose job it is to deal with "x", and then (once he knows someone is on it, and reeeally understands what they do and how) he's able to release some of that 'responsibility' off of his own shoulders and look at the system that scares him.

Most ADHD'ers have VERY "and then what?" kinds of minds. When talking to us it can seem like we're skipping around from topic to topic, but they all tie in. What's probably happening is that your daughter has pieced together all she's seen on the news about the aftermath of storms, and is superimposing those same results onto people, places, pets she knows. When she looks outside, she isn't seeing 'outside' she's seeing a Sarah Connor Post Apocolyptic world where Mommy is dead, and her friends are dead, and her favorite climbing tree has been torn apart, and flooding, and, and, and.

What has helped with my son (and I do it to/for myself on a minute by minute basis) is making up stories. Okay. Let's say it's true (not the 'mommy dead' part, but lets say a storm comes. Slowly. Suddenly out of nowhere. With ice. With lightening. With food (cloudy with a chance of meatballs), any and every possibility THEY think of, or that might get a giggle). THEN WHAT do we do? Key point, the 'then whats' avoid the whole death of loved ones part. The 'then whats' include both the beginning, as well as the 'aftermath' like tree planting, and using flashlights, and all the rebuilding and how much fun that can be (aka positive spin!)... etc.

For my son, it is HUGELY relieving to him to a) be believed that something COULD happen, b) that a grownup has a plan, c) to be let in on/ help with what that plan would be.

Nowadays I can USUALLY catch these hyperfocus panic attacks at the very beginning of the cycle OR he does, all on his own (yay!!!). But the ones that get him THESE days, are the ones where the adults are scared. Where it's on the news with grim faced adults going for the 'drama', or worded in the papers in a "What can we do????" kind of way, and the TRIFECTA is when he's exposed to both AND the adults in his life are talking about it in a awed/angry/or scared kind of way. Hence the teen suicide thing became a SUPER big deal last year. (So got the trifecta, darnit! I swear WHEN will adults learn that kids are listening and reserve certain topics of conversation when they're around??? Sigh. Ah well. I suppose most kids just 'trust' that the adults have it in hand.)

Sorry this has been so scattered. I've only had 2 hours of sleep (heading back to bed now). I'll come back through and edit for clarity of thought, or at least bulletin points later this morning after I've had a nap.

R

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S.L.

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It sounds like your daughter is struggling with some pretty high levels of anxiety and maybe some compulsive behaviors. Its not to say that she doesn't have ADHD, but sleeping issues and anxiety often go hand in hand. At the moment she seems to be focused and consumed by negative thoughts about the weather. Does she "stress" over anything else? Anxiety can show itself through many different behaviors. Your daughter may just be an extremely anxious child and may out-grow this or this may be a life-long struggle, But don't let this get you down... there are ways to help your daughter relax and be more at ease and the proper professionals will help you with this (and I'm not talking about medicating her!). I commend you for consulting professionals to help your daughter (and you as a mom) work through her anxiety. Continue to be her advocate and support system! Best wishes!

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M.S.

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Sounds a lot like my son at that age (with all those behaviors). He is now 7, still has some fears but much better. We had him work with a therapist and talk about rainbows, and good things that happen. He has been know to watch clouds while in class and worry about what's going on outside. The principal and teacher were made aware and always helped him on bad weather days. There are a lot of "worry" books out there you could get and read too. At home we would talk about how to stay safe. A lot of what you are doing. Unfortunately for us, time helped the most, but he's still on the anxious side. Do you like your therapist? Sometimes it takes a few tries to find one that you guys really connect with. Good luck!

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R.K.

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Have you had her tested for Autisim? To me it seems like she has a lot of the symtoms of Autisim. ADD-ADHD and ODD also go hand in hand with Autisim.
Also watch her diet carefully MSG can cause the outbursts and crying in ADD-ADHD-ODD and Autistic kids.

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S.B.

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When I was in high school I worked for a counselor who did EEG Biofeedback to treat kids and adults with ADD, ADHD, and lots of other things too - anxiety, depression, etc. It's a lot more available these days - I know the Cleveland Clinic does it in this area. Basically it's just a way to "retrain" your brain. You could probably Google it for a better explanation. I saw some really positive changes in the children who came to the clinic.

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