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Updated on February 10, 2015
F.W. asks from Union Hall, VA
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Re: do you really want to play this game?

As for your loss of Peter....

I am the one who posted the Facebook post. It is MY fault and if you want someone to blame, it's me.

Before posting that to Facebook, I looked over your posts to determine WHO was lost by you. I could not find a reference to your fiance, I assumed it was your son. That was MY mistake and own it fully. I had NO intention of causing more harm in an already painful situation.

But I can tell you what my honest intention was: I posted that because I genuinely felt compassion and pain for you and your loss. I wanted to bring others in from Facebook to give condolences, hoping that you would feel an outpouring of compassion in a painful moment.

I was wrong. As soon as I realized my mistake, I removed the post and apologized. NOTHING I was able to say was going to be good enough, and, to a degree, I understand. Losing someone you love is nothing short of excrutiating.

But now you know the truth. I am truly sorry for you loss, and I hope that you can forgive me for causing more pain.

But you cannot take that opportunity to FURTHER treat me (or anyone else) with disrespect as your last message to me was (and you even acknowledged it was).

I wish you the best. And if you felt pain at my unthoughtful Facebook post, then I challenge you to take that hurt and make something positive out if. How can you prevent OTHERS from feeling pain from YOUR interactions with them online? Perhaps compassion is the answer?

Sincerely,
MMP Moderator

Maybe it is time for a 'new age' here.

I have NO clue.

I have enjoyed being in contact with so many here.

I will miss SO many.

This belated response (will be 2 years in april) seems SO very...well...overdue.

I may be done here.

Love to all!!

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S.T.

answers from Washington DC on

oh, my dear.
MP mod, you are a jerk. and an asshat. and you should be ashamed.
i can't stand the thought of losing you, feline.
:(((((((
khairete
S.

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H.W.

answers from Portland on

Personally, I think it's pretty strange for one to volunteer for a job and then complain that they aren't getting paid. That makes no sense to me.

If she has a problem with agreeing to work for free, then she should just stop doing it. Personally, if I didn't like a club I was supposed to be in charge of and thought it was a total PITA I didn't have time for, I would change that instead of complaining. To lash out at others and tell THEM (Feline) to pay her if they have a problem with what's going on.... This also makes no sense.

Should we have to pay for civility and oversight? That's a good question for the Mamapedia folks to noodle on. I expect that if they charged money, it would tank. That said, if they did decide to pay for an active moderator who would make quick work of trolls, that would likely generate more site traffic.

In a thinky mood tonight I guess... :)

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J.S.

answers from St. Louis on

@}-,'--',-- @}-,'--',-- @}-,'--',-- @}-,'--',-- @}-,'--',-- @}-,'--',-- @}-,'--',-- @}-,'--',--

I see our "moderator" has mastered the sorry not sorry. :(

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W.W.

answers from Washington DC on

{{{{{{{HUGS}}}} to you babe!!

I remember FEDEXing your stuff so you guys could get married!! I'm so sorry!!

I'm glad I've been able to talk with you! Hopefully meet you soon!

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T.F.

answers from Dallas on

Hugs to you... Mmp had no right to post your personal info on FB.

I hope you stick around!!!!

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V.S.

answers from Reading on

Dare I waste my time answering since this will surely be pulled as your other was?
Why now? Read the other posts.
Why after two years? Because no personal apology was ever made and it still hurts.
"Play this game?" Really? Is this a game?
Sigh.
When I first open mamapedia's page, before I log in, I get a little blue window that advertises "real advice from real moms". That's the first thing advertised if you aren't logged in. Must be important.
Hmmmm... Who are those "real moms" providing that service? You mean us? The ones who are being told like it or lump it, you get what you pay for?
So sad...

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M.P.

answers from Portland on

I'm confused with some of the answers. I see nowhere in the text from mamapedia's moderatora mention of expecting Feline stroller to pay anything nor a mention of someone saying we don't want a moderator. I also read the moderator's post differently than some. I don't see her blaming anyone. I suggest that she is continuing to defend her actions.

I do wonder why so many are still upset about something that happened two years ago. This was the most egregious action and there have been other actions that offended many of us. I particularly see anger about trolls and inconsistent actions when dealing with post. I feel like we are expecting mamapedia to be caring, consistent and solve all problems. Perhaps we expect this because the moderator is telling us they are concerned. It sounds like some know the moderator and expect her to be a friend who knows how we feel and expect her to understand our issues. This is a business developed to make money. Doing some of the things we expect is probably not possible. I don't know much about how electronics work. And my impression is that they have insufficient funds to hire a full time experienced moderator. Remember they must make a profit.

I see mamapedia as an impersonal business and do not expect them to meet my needs. Sort of like the business is run by an computer. I
suggest that if each of us thought of mamapedia as an impersonal business we wouldn't expect caring responses from moderators and thus we would not be angry. I come to this site to learn from other moms. Mom's are a cross section of people with different values, resources, experience. When I see something with which I do not agree I don't pay much attention to it. Mamapedia is not a gathering of like minded people.

I was upset with someone posting inaccurate and personal information Concerning feline stroller. I believe that if a third person is reposting on another site they need to get permission from the writer. I don't know the law on this. I am very much aware that what is written on the Internet is open for anyone to read. I have no expections of privacy.

I still feel sad for F. (do I have the name correct?) The post on Facebook should not have happened. I don't understand how anyone would think someone's sorrow should be posted. Newspapers have a standard that causes them not to publish pictures that show grief. Oh, I think that has changed. We have become such a large population with instant acess that we as a people have lost much of the grace we used to have. Most transactions have become impersonal. A grocery is no longer a place where we share or lives. We don't small talk with store clerks or gas attendents. For the most part we don't even know their names. Wearing name tags is supposed to make the exchange feel more personal. I don't remember the name once the transaction is complete.

I "love" F. and several others because they have posted enough personal information that I care about what happens to them. I just do not feel that I have to change mamapedia so they feel the love.

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S.W.

answers from Amarillo on

Please do think this over and stick around. You are one of the main good people on this site.

I can recall having many many questions posted daily that were all different and we all were doing our best to be a community to help out each other. Over the years, it seems that others have come on and pushed or bullied out the good folks. Now we have many moving companies, writing college papers and teens that seem to find us on their days off from school.

Yes, I know many have moved on as their children has grown up. The few that have stayed have enjoyed helping others as best we can with our own life experiences giving us insight to issues.

Please stay. I will miss you very much if you go. It sure doesn't seem like it will be two years. A big hug to you.

I sure hope that this moderator's children have grown up enough so that she is not distracted from moderating by chasing a child about while trying to do what she did. Multi-tasking is not for everyone.

Off my soapbox now.

the other S.

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S.H.

answers from St. Louis on

(sigh)
moderator schmoderator.
This entire event was wrong on so many levels when it occurred.
It's even worse on this go-round.
Seriously, Mamapedia, this poster is the epitome of Grace.

& once again, MMP is grievously lacking in any essence of Grace.
As a result of the continued presence of trolls...
of the inept moderation of the postings....
+ an ever-multiplying influx of foul-mouthed _______(as Mom says "keep your mouth shut if you can't say anything nice")...
your bastion of reason, your troops of dedicated moms are rapidly retreating. It is a loss for you.

F.....you are respected & revered. Life has tossed you more than any of us could ever imagine. I applaud & thank you.

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M.D.

answers from Washington DC on

Hugs to you! MP was absolutely in the wrong with this - and then adding insult to injury with sending a message like this.

I'm very sorry :(.

I hope you don't let that moderator's actions and words deter you from some of the amazing women on this site.

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M.M.

answers from Seattle on

Just to clarify... "do you really want to play this game?" was the original subject of the email F. W. sent ME. Those are not my words and I would never write them to a member here.

I am a compassionate moderator, and I do care. I have positive intentions, as I tried to express to F.. I believe I'm fair and when an apology is due, I give one. No excuses.

However, I'm gathering that it was a mistake to let you know that I care. I'm seeing that you want me to be Oz behind the curtain. I'm okay with that. Truly. I'll be whatever you want me to be. I just want to be honest.

I am professional, and will go back to being a robot, but I thought having a personality here was more interesting. I'm okay with being wrong. You live, you learn.

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G.B.

answers from Oklahoma City on

I thought your post on the FB page was tasteful and not that intrusive. I figured the overreaction was due to them being in so much pain. I saw it for what it was and was not thinking it was offensive in any way.

Also, you never said "Hey Peggy Sue that goes by the name Lost love over on Mamapedia wrote this post and I'm sharing her personal information.

You didn't share any "personal" information. You shared a PUBLIC post on a PUBLIC page. No problem for me. No one knows that my posts are from me except the 3 or 4 ladies that I am friends with before and hopefully long after mamapedia.

Please know a lot of moms were unaware of the FB page until this issue and I think there was a lot of overreaction.

Any person with an email address can come on this page and read the same exact thing. If anyone on here thinks differently they are not understanding what public page means. You didn't really do anything wrong. Your heart was obviously in the right place.

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S.S.

answers from Atlanta on

While I have not been here as long as you and others, I love the advice you give. Please don't leave because of an unprofessional moderator.

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R.B.

answers from San Francisco on

Huh? What did I miss? Why is this coming up now?

Do I understand correctly that you just received this response NOW? Bizarre.

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D..

answers from Miami on

ETA: For the posters who don't know what the Moderator added and added to her lengthy SWH:

http://www.mamapedia.com/questions/6476037180384149505#re...

Original:
Cat, to be VERY honest with you, I am not surprised this happened on the facebook page. The "moderator" reads stuff TOO quickly and is quick to judge. I've read circular arguments she has written and

her inconsistency is amazing.

There are some people in this world who, when you point out their weaknesses, will just lash out with the other side of the universe. This last thing, which I guess really IS the moderator (I really thought it was someone pretending to be the moderator, which would have been SO MUCH better), has turned into her saying that she assumes we don't want a moderator. That's her way of lashing out at us.

Your case was brought up again because of the lobs she threw at people. Yeah, she did apologize for it, but she learned nothing from it. The poster is totally correct that we don't trust MP after that. It's not OUR FAULT that we lost trust. And there is nothing done to help build it back up.

Regardless, some of us are STILL here (with new names) trying to make a difference to people who actually need help (not the trolls). And if the occasional real person who can't figure out that using acronyms that look like they're cussing at mothers is upset because people don't take kindly to being called a mother F Word, well, that's too bad. She did have some people apologize, but that wasn't enough. She had to write ANOTHER post bashing people, even knowing she had offended and confused most people.

My biggest point in saying all of this is that you ARE valued here. The moderator who wrote us here doesn't care about any of us. However, we care about you. I can hardly believe it is almost 2 years since you lost Pete. How did time fly like that?

Hugs to you, big ones...

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M.H.

answers from Dallas on

I haven't been an active member here for very long, so I had no idea what you were referring to. I think I understand now. You posted on the Mamapedia forums about a loved one passing and your post was then reposted on Mamapedia's Facebook page?

I am sorry for your loss, but I'm a little confused. I don't believe there is an expectation of privacy when using a public forum like this.

Not to sound callous, but I also assumed Mamapedia exists primarily to be a successful business and make money (with advertisements and high traffic). Their mission might be "to help moms" or something, but the business wants to make money. I wouldn't trust any internet forum (including Facebook) to keep my information private, for that reason alone.

As far as the email the moderator sent you, it's a little weird. Moderators usually keep a nice professional distance from any drama on the boards. Phrases like "Do you really want to play this game?" seem a little out-of-character for a mod, IMO.

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R.A.

answers from Boston on

I remember this! How sad. Hugs to you. ❤️ Regardless of what she thought were well intentions, to simply want to post something on that on Facebook. very sad.

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S.F.

answers from Rochester on

Dear Feline, I'm so sorry that this would drive you away. I understand, but I'm sorry for you as well as sorry for all of us. You are a wonderful poster here and you would be missed.

I do have a suggestion for those among us who do need to make amends with someone. If you are apologizing, do NOT suggest that the person take the hurt that you caused and turn it in to something positive. Apologize and leave it at that.

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