Maybe I am immature, but my son's elementary school uses the term 'pull out' for a school program. It is the Pull Out program. Basically they pull kids out of class for whatever. It could be speech therapy or a gifted program. I sit through the school meetings and hear it being referred to regularly . Other parents say their kids have an IEP and they say if I think it is bad during the PTA meeting, just think how many times it is said during their meetings.
Do other schools have a better term than Pull Out? Do you say, my kid is in the Pull Out program with a straight face. This is for elementary school. I sure hope the middle school uses a different term, because by that age some of the kids could know what else it could mean.
If your school has a better term, could you suggest it here? I want to give a list of other options to the school.
Sounds like it is the term for most schools. I am new to it and only thought of it as birth control (yes, the least recommended method). Anyway I did admit I am immature about it. I will get used to it by the time my kid is in school a couple of years.
There was no way I was going to raise my hand and say something. I would have put it in a suggestion box. It just made me laugh when I heard it. I really thought is was just for our school. I had no idea is was a national thing (the term, not the services).
In my child's school, if a child leaves the classroom for an extra program, it is a pull-out program. If an aid or special ed teacher comes into a classroom to help a child in a certain area, it is a push-in program.
I never thought twice about it. And I don't think kids would think twice out it either.
Last school I worked in was a special needs pre-school. Yeah, kids were "pulled out" for speech/OT/PT, whatever.
So it became so and so has pull out in 15 mins. Or we have 3 out of 8 kids pulled out right now.
Funny, I never thought is was an odd/uncomfortable phrase. But then I don't tend to sexualize things either.
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"Advance learning" would be a nicer term. I agree that's gross although every time i hear "let's rock out "my mind goes automatically and finishes it.
Wow, really? I have a fairly dirty mind and I had to read your SWH before I knew what you were talking about!
It's called a pull out because they PULL the kids OUT of class. I have raised three kids in three schools (K-12) using this term and I have never heard of anyone having a problem with it.
HAHAHAHA!!! I totally chuckled at that S. as soon as I saw it! I am totally not really responding to your question as far as a new term for what to call it, I am just glad to see there is another person out there with a sense of humor, juvenile or not! Thanks for the giggle this afternoon!
Yeah, my son gets pulled out for various support classes. Has since K. What you're suggesting never occurred to me. We call it "support programs" - my son is specifically in the "Autistic Support Program". There is also "Emotional Support" and "Behavioral Support", etc. But we still use the term "pull out" pretty regularly. "He gets pulled out for math" "We'll pull him out for reading lab".
Great. Now I'm going to go into his IEP meetings and think about this "other" way of considering the term "pull out".
Kid getting what he needs?
Then don't worry about what it's called.
I've never, ever had an issue with my daughter's PPT using the term Pull Out for her special education services that have required it. Not once did it ever cross my mind the way it crossed yours and I've been dealing with this stuff for more than seven years now.
Seriously, as someone else said, this is really juvenile. So my advice is that you don't ever, ever give a list of alternative options that you think are "better" for the school because it's a technical term used across the country. They'll roll their eyes at you and say, "Hmm ok, let's move on." Even if they agree that it's an unfortunate term they'll still tell you to move on.
Seriously, if you bring this up to the school you're going to look very juvenile and pervy.
Sometimes words are used as WORDS and not as a sexual innuendo.
Having called yourself immature, I assume you immediately think of pull out as the practice of withdrawing during sex before ejaculation to avoid pregnancy. Based on the fact that no one here understood that's what you meant and that I personally have never thought of that, yes, maybe you're just being immature. But thanks. That's a picture I can't unsee now...
Seriously? I am probably one of the most immature human on earth sans actual children and my mind has never gone there. Probably because of the serious nature of what is being discussed. I mean my kid has autism, har har.
Nine years and yes they have discussed what he will be pulled out for and nope, no laughter.
"Resource" or "Enrichment" here.
Seriously -- "pull out"? Even without the sexual connotation, it sounds illiterate!
I'm sure everyone that saw your title thought your post was going to be sexual in nature. Now that I have read the content of what 'pull out' your talking about, I may blush about what I initially thought. I guess I'm immature too, hehe. I say let it go.
In my son's grade school (which goes up to 5th grade), they use this term pretty much every day. Honestly, until I saw your post, I had forgotten about the other meaning to this term! That probably says more about MY life than anything else, but you might ask a teacher or administrator if it's ever been a problem, before putting a lot of energy into fixing it.
Without addressing the reason you might be giggling at this term, perhaps you could mention that being pulled out of class could have a negative connotation to students. How about "Additional Resource Program?" Or, "Extra Learning Program?" Or, "Additional Learning Program?"
They need a term that actually identifies the goals of the program, doesn't add a stigma, and doesn't focus solely on the fact that they're getting pulled from their regular class time.
As a former teacher, I'm with Christy Lee - I don't like the term because it emphasizes separating the child from the mainstream, that they're being deprived of what everyone else is getting because they are "different."
But I think there are a million terms that have double meanings that kids in middle school will giggle about. In music class, I was showing an old musical, and there was a reference to a person being "a bum" - so everyone giggled that he was being called a rear end. Some old movies refer to drunk people as being "stoned". The list goes on and on. Silly but it's part of life.
I never really noticed that one. You are funny. I don't think you need to offer other suggestions to the school! ha!
I'll tell you what makes ME crazy, as a person who works in the school. A child's cumulative file is often referred to as his/her "cume" as in short for "cumulative".... but this is actually shortened to cum. I can't stand seeing someone actually write this down, on a note or an email- "I have Johnny's cum, I'll return it after the IEP".... I am like UGH please don't WRITE that!!!!!
The school system here calls it Intervention.
I've heard the term - our son was pulled out of class for speech therapy for awhile.
But I've never heard of it referred to as a Pull Out Program.
I suppose if they are doing that they could say P.O.P. instead.
If a kid is in speech therapy we'd just say he was in speech therapy and how that was fitted into his school day was never an issue.
It made me smirk as well so I right there with you at the immature table I suppose. For what it is worth I work in a predominantly male industry where we have terms like 'nipple' and 'joints' thrown about regularly in meetings. Yeah, it still makes me giggle on the inside. It is funny to consider a room full of adults seriously discussing at length topics such as 'pull out' or 'nipples'. I don't have an alternative suggestion but at least I don't feel the need to vilify you as juvenile, perverted or immature. I say take your giggles where you can and move on about your business. Like you say you will get used to the term. Nipples still raise my eyebrows but at least I no longer feel like giggling foolishly so there's hope for you. :)
hahahaha no we don't use that term. I don't think it would raise an eyebrow for a kid though even though it sounds funny to me. I don't hear about it here in any terms...
Our district has both pull out and push in services. Push in means that the SN teacher is in the classroom during class time. I guess I never thought about it that way...but yeah, that's kinda awkward lol.
Pretty sure they just call them "alternative classes" around here. Or they just call it what it is...speech therapy, occupational therapy, math support, English as a second language, etc. The only thing they are careful about is calling the gifted program "brain busters" instead of gifted/talented/exceptional (they used to call it GET but decided against it).
So around here one would say "My child has an alternative class at 1:30." or "My child attends speech therapy on Wednesdays."
