Seeking Childcare in Gladstone/Kansas City - North

Updated on November 13, 2006
K.B. asks from Kansas City, MO
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My husband and I currently have a happy and energetic 14 month old son enrolled into a daycare that we LOVE. However, they recently informed us that they would be phasing out their infant and toddler care. My son is considered to be "grandfathered in" and has the option to stay with this daycare; however, they will not be accepting new infants/toddler.

Since my husband and I are not through having children, we would like to switch our son to a facility that will accept our new child (if we have one)

We currently live in Kansas City north (off of 152) and I am willing to drive anywhere north of the river if the situation is right. We are not exclusively looking at certain “type” of daycare. Privately owned, corporately owned, or religiously affiliated . . . We just want the best for our son.

I would also prefer the daycare be licensed and accredited. However, I am open to hear your opinions. --I think personal experiences speak louder then certificates on a wall

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B.W.

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Suzi is right in some respects - licensing just proves you've got the right layout to your house, in my opinion. I did a lot of research when I was looking to start a home daycare and found that a lot of women I talked to, who followed the rules but weren't licensed, had an easier time taking care of the children because they weren't overcrowded, they could offer more individual attention, etc.

I only had my daughter in a license-exempt church-run facility for a little less than a year. I would avoid that scenario if possible. She developed viral meningitis at 10 weeks old and then had 8 ear infections in less than a year. After taking her out of that facility and being home, she has had one ear infection and she's now 3 1/2. They were constantly ignoring me when I told them she had a milk allergy - they fed her mac & cheese, gave her another child's formula (milk instead of the soy she was supposed to have), and things like that. This center is not near your location, so I don't think you'd probably check it out, anyway. Also I think that in a lot of cases, you get what you pay for.

S.L.

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K.,
Since you brought up the licenses and accrditation and asked for opinions, I thought I would just say a word about that.

Many people that have never ran a licensed care facility don't have a really good idea about what licensing really does for a childcare provider.

I've been both licensed and unlicensed and I believe I am able to offer a better service as an unlicensed provider.

Licensing in most states is a lot more about the house than it is about the person. Let me give you an example. I became licensed in my first home in Westport. The house was a very simple little bungalow with a front and back door and it was only 500 square feet. Because the entrence and exits were just where they needed to be and the house was up to city codes it was fine for licensing. But it was only 500 square feet! It was so small! When we moved north of the river we chose a house that was much larger, had a nicer yard, but the doors were in all the wrong places to pass the fire safety inspection. We would have had to do over 5000 dollars worth of work to get the house to pass. When we decided to move I was surprised how many very decent house would not pass for one reason or another. Our current house actually needs about 10,000 dollars worth of work if I want to pursue licensing. But the house is safe and I've had it inspected by an electrician for fire safety. It passes our current codes for our city, but it wouldn't pass daycare codes per the state. I could choose to become licensed but I'd have to take several more children to be able to pay that off and if I was to invite all the extra work, paper work and inspections into my life, I'd expect to actually earn a higher wage. I wouldn't earn a higher wage if I was paying off 10 grand worth of work. So either my rates would increase significantly, or I'd have to max out my house and have 10 kids in it all the time. That would automatically reduce the children's level of attention they receive, not to mention our quality of life!

Now let's look at some other things licensing requires. You say you want to have another child someday. A licensed caregiver will usually be licensed for either 6 children with 3 under 2, or 10 with 2 under 2. Let's say they have 2 1 year old children and you become pregnant. By the time you give birth, 1 of them may be 2-3 months away from turning 2. But you may need to return to work at 6 weeks. You'd have to wait or find another caregiver. But what if your caregiver had a couple of openings for infants while you were pregnant and needed to fill those spots due to financial reasons? Would you expect her to take a pay cut by waiting for you to actually need the spots? As an unlicensed caregiver I can keep 4 children of any age. They could all be infants if I wanted them to be.

I could give comparisons all day long. Before when I was licensed I had to feed all meals at exactly the same times each day. I was required to do that so that they could pop in and inspect my meals and how I serve them. It was nice having the reimbursement monies for the food I was feeding. But there was NEVER any flexibility in my day. What if the kids are on different schedules? What if the kids nap at different times? What if I need to feed several different types of foods due to food allergies? I hated doing all the extra paperwork. As a parent your only concern should be that your child is feed well. You don't need the state making your caregiver crazy and keeping your child from getting the attention they deserve and eating on their own schedule.

Then there is outdoor time. My licensing rep always told me that I had to take the kids out for an hour per day unless it was bitter cold or raining. As an unlicensed caregiver I get to choose when we go out. That means I won't allow the kids out on days the pollen is too high, it's too hot or too cold or too windy. I take them out and we have fun outside. I do believe it's important at the right age and in the right time. My mother cares for the infants while I take the older children out. I don't believe that most infants really get anything out of a lot of outdoor time. They enjoy a walk in their stroller true. But that's something mom can do when mom isn't trailing a long several little ones. The way I handle it, the older kids and I can walk to the park unencumbered by little ones. The babies don't know the difference and the older ones can have my attention.

I haven't seen the regulations in a long time. So I'm not sure if this is still true. But they used to require the doors be unlocked during the day. It was a fire thing. The kids could get out if I wasn't able to unlock the doors for them. I don't like my doors unlocked. It's not safe. One of the kids could get outside while I'm in the rest room. Just last week a 2 year old was found somewhere in the city walking around alone.

And what about the cots? I HATE those uncomfortable cots that daycare centers are required to use. When I was first licensed I bought a whole bunch of crib mattresses. They were thick, I could use sheets on them, and the kids liked them. Then they made the change and required a cot that's 4 inches off the floor. I like my kiddos to be comfortable.

For me, it all goes back to the numbers. If I was to get licensed and follow a lot of laws and regs that are more a nusiance than a real help for anyone, I'd want to be earning a real living and making good money. To do that I'd take the max kids I could have. I'd work a lot harder, have less time to go around between the kids and have to run my care more like an institution than the family environment my kids have now.

I'm sure that there are many others that could list tons of advantages for the licensed situations. The most important being that a licensed caregiver has had to take the cpr classes and have a background check. If it's really that important to a person, they can do the background check themselves and require the cpr requirement.

Suzi

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S.G.

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I know it has been a while, but if you are still looking for daycare I have a couple of openings in my at home daycare.
I have been open for 5 years and don't keep more than 4 children at one time, except for 2 before and after school children that are the same age as my own.
If you are still looking please e-mail me for more information.
Thanks, Michelle
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S.P.

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Hi K.-
I need to start by saying I am not licensed or accredited. I do have opinions on that, I would much rather explain over the phone or in person.
I do have over 12 years childcare experience, 2 years of that in a childcare center, and loads of references to back me. Also, I am current on my CPR amd First Aid Certification. I plan to take more classes in the future to further my childcare abilities.
My own children are 10 yrs, attending the fifth grade, and little one is almost 9 months.
The children I watch are 5 months and 2yrs are my permant ones, on call I have twin 3 yo, 2-4yo 3- 2yo, 10mo, and an 5mo. I say on call because these are for when their full time sitter is unable to watch or mom just needs a break from her stay at home duties.
I live in the Weatherby Lake community, so I am just off 152 and Amity Road.
I hope I haven't wasted your time and maybe we can talk. My phone number is ###-###-####, S. Payne

Thank you for your time,
S.

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