Was Needing Advice, Everything Is Fine Now.

Updated on January 08, 2008
J.B. asks from Cayce, SC
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OK, so here is what happened at the meeting. We all sat in a room and discussed my son. They are now going to implement my system I use at home for his behavior. My son is one of those who reprimands do not work on. When he gets in trouble and is punished, it has an opposite effect, and in fact causes MORE bad and unwanted behavior. So for the last year, I have had him on a reward system. 5 days without a bad note from the teacher, and he gets a prize. So, now, at the school, if he has 5 good days in a row, he will get to go and read a book to the kindergarten class, and tell them how great it is to read (which is something he has always wanted to do). On good days, he will be allowed to eat lunch with his best friend. And after a month of being good, the teacher has agreed to move his and his best friends desks together. This is wonderful news for my son and for myself as well, since this is the only system that ever got results at home. We discussed the medication issue, and I assured them that he will never take medicine like that again, as it made my son into a zombie that would not eat and cried in the afternoon. And that was on the lowest dose they make. He is already a skinny boy, so not having an appetite is not acceptable.
We also discussed the results of his academic testing, which he always scores real high on, so they are awaiting the results for two more tests, and next year, he will go straight to the gifted/advanced program, and hopefully that will give him more to keep his brain occupied and entertained.
I was delightfully suprised that this was not another bullying meeting like I have experienced in the past concerning my sons behavior. They all seem to genuinely love him, and he loves them also. We talked about the school choice program, but my son would never leave this school. He loves it there, and I do as well. I do volunteer work there as often as I can.
I know that legally, this is the first step they have to take in order to try for a transfer, but I feel like they really want him to do good and be able to stay in the school, where as in the past, I felt as if they just wanted him to leave. They did not push the issue of medication, and in fact the district psychologist agreed with my position. And for any of ya'll (I am deep south!) who didnt know, I was sent to the doctor when he was 5 at the reccomendation of the school, and they did diognose him with ADHD, he has been on medication in the past (but never again). A diagnosis I may argue against in the future and have removed, because the doctor who saw him had him in a small room (4 ft by 5 ft) for 45 minutes before she saw him. I truely beleive any child under those circumstances would appear hyper and ADHDish. I know he is hyper, but also very intelligent, and that should be nurtured, not labeled.
And I stand by the idea that if they still had those scary paddles in the principles desk, children would ALL behave better, that was the only thing that kept me in line when I was little. I only had to be paddled once. That was all it took. Remember when the first day of school involved all the kids in a room and the principle on a stage with that paddle? Scary wasn't it? I believe that when they stopped that, kids got out of control, and the ADD/ADHD label was born. I have heard kids at the school say things like "what are you gonna do? you cant do nothing to me" and that is sad. I am in no way saying they should beat the children, but the knowledge of that paddle in the office always worked for us.
OK, I am open to comments from those I have offended with my support of shcool punishments. (which most likely would'nt work on my son, but would work an many others)
But mostly, I want to thank all of ya'll who sent me messages of support, and all of ya'll who had great advice, and also those who let me know the legalities if the situation. I appreciate having this outlet to communicate with all the moms out there.

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B.L.

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My child has been on medication for 5 years and believe me you want to get him off and keep hjim off even if you have to home school him!!! My child was bright but hyper active, now he is 12 and in the 4th grade! All this was done when he went into foster care because I left his abusive father! I had planned to take him off of it last summer but a man I was living with slapped them while I was away and they were taken from me again! But he is so sweet and all he needs is love! If you redirect a child that is hyper and giv ethen frequent rewards the behavoir stops!

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A.H.

answers from Atlanta on

Have you tried changing his diet? A lot of time changing the diet will get rid of any signs of adhd. It did for my children. They eat healthy and have never been on any medication, including antibiotics.

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A.D.

answers from Atlanta on

I doubt that they can and that it's another glorified bullying technique like with vaccinations. I did want to say however, have you tried controlling it with diet? I know that a lot of people are skeptical of those things but I have a son that changed a TON once I changed his diet. I didn't realize that some of his behaviors were sensitivities to certain foods and here I had been told that once upon a time, he was ADHD too.

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B.

answers from Augusta on

The school is prob. refering to him being kicked out over disrupting class. if hes that bad you might want to move him to another class or school for kids with adhd. as far as medicating him ask his dr about changing his med, what is he on?

after reading your update To me it sounds like he's not hyper just bored and may need to switch to the honors program early. Or work out some kind of deal with the teacher send a workbook to school with him and get her to let him work on that after he's done with his work, or get him a chapter book something like the treehouse series or maybe encyclopedia brown something to make him work his mind. word search books maybe even sudoku.

one more thing . .
my daughter does the samething in kindergarten with her I told her if she feels like she cant sit still in her seat to wiggle her toes, she has to concentrate to wiggle her toes and wiggling her toes is not disruptive to the class they are in her shoes.

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L.C.

answers from Atlanta on

Check out this book:
The Myth of the ADD Child: 50 Ways to Improve Your Child's Behavior and Attention Span Without Labels, Drugs, or Coercion by Thomas Armstrong.

It has a lot of good information and suggestions of things to try.

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E.T.

answers from Atlanta on

J. - I can't speak on the medication but the public school system CAN NOT deny your child an education. They might be saying they are going to put him in an alternate school because of his behavior, they CAN do that. I'm not sure what kind of meeting you are having but if he(for example) he is a constant disruption to the classroom they might be telling you they are going to put him in a special class or alternative school.

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S.F.

answers from Athens on

No they can not! Call you an attorney asap, he will tell you the same. Go to Coalition for Safe Minds site the address is below and here is legal representation site and another site that might help as well. I applaud you for not being pushed into medicating your child, sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders. After all we are the only ones here to protect our children, and don't forget it. Because they can get hateful but it's your child's life...
My g-son now has autism because I let doctors from main stream medicine, hospitals and health departments influence my decision to vaccinate. Even when I had doubt, they can even get pushy! ADHD is also on the spectrum of learning disabilities. The autism spectrum. Read all you can find don't trust any main stream doctor, alternative health is your best bet to get straight answers. They are not bought out by big drug companies like most doctors are. Sorry to be so negative, I'm just so tired of seeing our babies suffer so they can fill they're pockets!

http://www.safeminds.org/ http://www.specialneedsalliance.com/
http://www.nmaseminars.com/index.html

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M.M.

answers from Macon on

I was a special education and 504/SST coordinator for 15 years. The school system CANNOT force you to place your child on medication. The law also requires the school to develop a behavior management plan that is responsive to collected data. This plan must be modified as often as necessary. The law provides that all students are to be provided EQUAL access to education - regardless of disability. There are many ways to address these problems in the classroom. The strategies often require individualized time and effort on the teacher's behalf and therefore may not be carried out as designed. YOU are the advocate for your child's education. I know that medication is a scary issue, but sometimes we have to weigh the possible side effects of medication vs. the side effects of missing out on the education offered. I always asked parents to consider this thought, "If the doctor said your child had diabetes or a heart condition - would you give the medication regardless of the side effects?" If your answer is yes, I would seriously consider a trial of meds. I know there is a lot of negative information out there about meds, but there is more positive information about benefits received. If taking a pill will help your child benefit from the education provided, it may be a good idea to consider it. Actually, Ritalin has been around since the 1940s and there is not a lot of evidence that is causes any long term damage. It leaves the body within 4-6 hours through urine and sweat and there is no residual meds left. This is a medication that I would try first because it lasts only for the 4 hour period that follows and is fairly quick acting. I have seen MANY kids that this makes a world of difference for and who actually become much happier kids once they wear down the side effects (stomach ache, headache). These side effects will actually be "worn down" with consistent use over a few days. Most parents opt to only have the child take the meds on school days, but I have seen more success with those who take it every day because the kids get accustomed to it more readily. I am not a doctor but I do have a lot of experience with observing these kids and have seen both pros and cons - more pros than cons. There is not enough information in your questions to really see what the behaviors are that are hindering your child's education. Sometimes a diagnosis of ADHD is incorrect. Be sure you see a physician who specializes in treatment of these students. Also be sure there is good data collected by the classroom teacher - daily information broken down into short intervals that identifies the antecedent to the behavior and the consequences provided. Sometimes just looking at this data is eye-opening. Have you been to the school to observe your child? Sometimes when mom is there to observe, children may exhibit more appropriate behavior - but if there is true ADHD present, the child will not be able to hold off the behaviors for a long period of time. There is also the factor that the teacher's behavior may be different with your presence, so keep that in mind as well. You may request that an outside person go in for the purpose of observing your child. When I have done this, I did so as a participant of class activities rather than just sitting and writing. The person should NEVER be identified to the class as an observer of your child or of any child. There are so many factors at stake, please be sure your child's education is always the focus. If your child is removed from school for more than 10 days of the school year, the school is required to collect data and develop a behavior intervention plan that specifies positive ways to intervene before the behavior occurs. The only way this can be developed is to have good data collection. Good luck!

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N.K.

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Hi J.. I work as a school psychologist in a school system in Georgia- so, can give you knowledgeable advice on this topic.

NO - the school system cannot force you to put your child on medication. They should not even go so far as to suggest that you should. A team may suggest that your child is showing significant problems with attention and hyperactivity and that you may want to consider talking to a doctor, psychologist, or child psychiatrist about those issues. Now, they may also tell you that if you do get a diagnosis of ADHD from a psychologist or doctor there may be more services (such as special education) that would be available to him. That is about as far as they can go.

I would suggest that you talk to a medical professional about different options. There are medications these day that are not stimulants if you would like to do a little research on those. There are also other options that do involve medications.

Good luck at your meeting. They can be overwhelming with all the school system employees. If possible, bring your husband with you for support. But remember, that everyone is there in the interest of your child. Everyone wants your son to succeed.

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K.S.

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AS a mom and a formero school employee I can offer you my point of view. My 11 year old son is not diagnosed adhd however, I have every grade school teacher tell me that he needs to be tested, so I had him tested every year for everything you can think of from a.d.d to hearing, sight, autism etc. He has not been diagnosed with anything except a bad case of daydreaming. He is not a disruptive student he just doesn't get his work done. Okay that is the mom part.
the teacher part is that if he is disrupting the classroom then he can be removed and suspended on a daily basis and the school can go to the board for expulsion or have him moved to a self - contained emotionally disturbed classroom. I understand your concern over the use of medication that is so "heavy" that it completely removes any resemblense of your son but, that is a discussion that needs to be had with your doctor. If he is inhibiting other children to learn then something needs to be done. The other students have a right to learn also and his behavior may be disrupting that. Now if it is not a behavioral issue and just a hyperactive, ran out of things to do bored - type thing then that is the teachers job to deal with... he is not being given enough to do during the day or being "pushed" enough. Have him tested by his doctor, the school counselor, and another doctor that he doesn't normally see for a second opinion. I am sorry if some of this sounds harsh but, being in second or third grade, it is just the beginning of his school career and you don't want him to receive a reputation on his school record as a student to not be taken seriously and a naive mother who won't accept her childs illness.
Good Luck my prayers are with you. I know that something like this is difficult and heart breaking.
K.

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R.B.

answers from Atlanta on

A public school cannot make you medicate your child or make threats to kick him out. It is the parents decision ONLY. They are not even supposed to by law mention that they even think he should be medicated. They are not the experts. Only your pediatrician can help guide you on this. The school must accept your decision and work with you on it. If it is not what you feel is best for him then dont do it. If they are placing this pressure on you document everntying said and take it to the school board. I am a teacher at a public school and we are told right from the beginning we ARE NOT to ever mention medication as the answer. My personal opinion is it is an easy way out for alot of teachers with overflowing classrooms. Do what you feel is right.

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L.D.

answers from Sumter on

J.,
Did you know that a lot of the toxins that are in our homes can cause ALL KINDS of problems? Even ADD and ADHD! Yes - I said toxins. The cleaning products and personal care products that we use everyday have been found to affect our health in numerous ways. YOUR SON MAY NOT HAVE ADHD! He may be having a reaction to some of those chemicals. There are SAFER alternatives! Please check it out at www.4thedinkins.fourpointwellness.com

I wish you the best.

L.

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M.N.

answers from Atlanta on

I agree with your concerns of this effecting his overall and long term health...Let me 1st off start by telling you a little about our circumstance.
My son is 7. He went through a very tramatic almost sudden death of his great grandmother, (whom he was very close to) right after pre-k. He almost immediatly started to rebel. Upon entering kindergarten, the situation was much worse.He was sent home on suspension so many times, that I seriously lost my job. The 1st grade, no better. Many OR's and several suspensions (i took up a job working at night so My job would not affected).
The school system called me into one of their SST (student support teams) and sat down and talked about all of the goings on. But the assistant principal "shared" his own expierances with me about his children and ADHD, which really caught my curiosity. Never once did anyone force, demand or otherwise indicate that this should be an option.
Hubby and I are still to this day not 100% in agreeance to the meds.
My son eats like there is no tomorrow...and is nowhere even close to being called overweight
He is now in the top 5 of his class.
He is able to do extracurricular activites as his attention and patience are much more in tuned.
Yes he still has his days. He is still my opinionated little man.
He is NO robot.
He is not suicidal.
He is not emotional.
He is great. Very down to earth and easy to talk to.
He comes off his meds with no crash and burn affect. It is just as natural as any of us after our morning coffee if you will.
I do not think that anyone can force you to do something to your child that you do not feel or deem as necessary or appropriate.
There are other alternatives to these things.
One being...Home school. There is an awesome virtual school that you can do that is only 3 hours a day and some fantastic homeschool groups that are local to you that you can find and you get together, take field trips and even P.E.
but please do not feel that you are stuck...you will soon figure out what is best for all of you, not the schoolboard. The meds are not an option to make the teachers job's easier, imo
Hope this helps.
If you do decide to try the meds again...take your time in choosing the right one. we tried several including the patch. when we found the one that did what "HE" needed them to do, we stuck with them and will only increase the dosage when "HE" needs them increased. it took us almost 5 months to find the right one.
pss...I am so excited to say that my son was removed from the sst right before the holidays...YAY, he has come a long way baby :)

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R.S.

answers from Charleston on

J.,
I am a special education teacher and NO they cannot force you to give him ADHD medicines. That is against your rights as a parent. If he is a major disruption in the class they can ask you to come and get him, they can keep him in the office until he settles down, and if the behavior is really bad they can suspend him. My suggestion to you would be to talk to his teacher and work on a plan together to help him be successful in the classroom. I have had students who were off the wall, climbing (literally) on the desks, but I have also had those who were like zombies because of their meds. Neither is conducive to a good education. There has to be a team approach. A child with ADHD is easily distracted and needs to have as few distractions as possible. There are ways to accomplish this in the room. It is a lot of work for the teacher but it is worth it to have a student who is actually learning. Let me know if you need any more suggestions. Be an advocate for your child. You may be the only one he has!
R.

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S.T.

answers from Atlanta on

J.,
The school system should not be telling you that your child should be on medication. They are not legally allowed to tell you that your child should be on medicine. They can ask you to take them to a psychologist for an evaluation so the child can be diagnosed. Then it is the doctor's decision on whether to prescribe medication. You have the choice to put them on it. If you DO put your child on medication, the school WILL keep up with the child through the school nurse and the teachers should document their behavior throughout the day to see if it is working. They will let you know and the administration know if they see any difference in the behavior. If there are issues, they can have a meeting on the child and let you know what they have observed. However, they should not be able to legally tell you anything about the medication itself or that you should get it changed. They can only suggest going back to the doctor, who might decide to make adjustments to the dosage based on the notes from the teachers. If you decide th take the child off medication, they cannot force you to put them back on it. I don't know what state you live in, but I teach in Georgia, and that is the policy here. Hope you can figure this out!!

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M.B.

answers from Charleston on

Hey J.,

I will give you my opinion about medicating your child. Of course it is only my opinion. Although your child is making straight A's if they are a distraction to the whole class then yes they should be taken out of the class. My daughter has a child in her class who is very disruptive because he can't seem to stay in his seat and does not listen to the teacher. It is very disruptive to those who are trying to listen.
On to the medication issue, I'm an adult who was on medication while I was in middle and high school for adhd. I do have to say that no I have no health issues due to the medication. I was always on the heavier side and when I was on the medication I didn't eat as much and I remember I was not hungry. I could defnitely tell when I didn't take the medication because I would not be able to concentrate. It doesn't have to be a bad thing putting your child on medication you can make it a positive. I'm not saying put him on medication I'm saying you need to weigh all your options, get the necesary testing done and not from a Dr but a child pyscologist and see what they turn up. If it wasn't for the medication I do not think I would have graduated from High School. Now that I'm 34 and trying to go back to college I still have a very hard time concentrating on my school work. So I know I still have issues with add. It's not something that your child will outgrow it's just something they will learn to live with. I took myself off the medication in my senior year of high school and I struggled that year, but still made it through.
Go to the meeting with an open mind and listen to what they are trying to tell you. Then once you have gathered that information seek outside counseling for you and your child to see if that is really what he needs. If it truly is NOT add-adhd then no do not medicate your child work with him to keep him busy at all times.
It's your choice as the parent if he has the medication and making sure he has the right dose is the most important thing.
I know when I was on the medication for the most part I was a normal happy kid, but that is because I was on the right dosage.
I hope this helps and remember I'm only giving my opinion and my experience to being on the medication.

M.

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R.D.

answers from Spartanburg on

No, of course a public school cannot force medication-- but if you've been through meetings with your child's school before, I'm surprised you didn't know this, since they're required by law to give you a parents' rights handbook at every meeting. If you haven't received this, ask them-- they must provide it, and just their knowing that you know about your rights can go a long way. A public school is bound by the laws of your state, which you can research online, but remember that private schools are not, so they can refuse students for any reason. And even though charter schools are public schools, they, too, have their own rules, which you'd have to research to be sure of. A public school can, however, force a child to transfer to another school in the same district/ county if that school has better resources for your child-- i.e., a special class, more tutors, smaller classes, etc.-- because they are required by law to provide the "least restrictive environment", and another school in their system might provide that. Good luck!

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C.B.

answers from Savannah on

I am the mother of two children with ADD. My son, now 21, was tentatively diagnosed at age 3. I tried diet, positive reinforcement, every alternative to medicine I could find until about midway through kindergarten. His impulse control was so poor he stayed in trouble and the school was recommending he be put in a behavior disorder class. I broke down and with the help and guidance of an excellent physician, put him on ADD meds. The improvement was remarkable. He told his teacher, "this little pill is my ticket to self-control!". He stayed on meds until highschool when he had better coping skills. Without the meds, school would have been even more difficult for him and I could see his self-esteem slipping away. The right doctor and right meds & doseage can be a blessing. C. Branch

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M.

answers from Atlanta on

Hey J.. I don't know for sure but let me tell you I have been around and around with my daughter who had special needs and I fought like you know what. I do NOT believe they can make you do that!!!! BUT, I have a name of a Lawyer that only handles educational issues. I believe he would probably give you some sort of an answer over the phone. Doesn't hurt to call.
His name is Torin Togut. ###-###-####
Just wondering what county does your child attend? Hope I was somewhat helpful. M.

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D.

answers from Atlanta on

No, you do not and don't my grandson was on the medication and the DR said that contributed to future drug use. They will tell you it does not, but research has shown that it does and with the proper diet and natural remedies this can be taken care of the right way. My cousin is a teacher and she always ask parents to take children off sugar and so much starch in their diet, spend time reading with them and research natural vitamins, etc. Most teachers are not like her and they just want to keep them still while they are in their class....it is the easy way out for most. Fight with all you have to make sure they do not medicate your child for their sake. Discipline and a lack of sugar helps a great deal plus there is a product called NRG that you can get through Herbalife Distributors that helps with concentration and does not cause all of these other things. Please, I beg you not to do it.....my son-in-law listened and he has always been sorry. Hope this helps with your decision.
D. Jenkins

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S.M.

answers from Atlanta on

I have two children with ADHD issues. The school cannot FORCE you to medicate your child. They can intimidate you into doing it.

Here is the larger question. Do you want to continue to deal with the hassle of this school? I am not a fan of public school. I understand it is the only option for many. My children were not gaining anything while there. Their self-concept was taking a dive. Some teachers are very knowledgable about ADHD, and some think it is just a behavior issue that can be "fixed".

I decided to homeschool my children. I know them best. Then I found K12.com. A public school in our state that we can belong to from home. Now is my child wants to hang upside down on the couch while I read to him, who cares? He is listening and learning without condemnation.

You should know that we do meds. but we do them because they work for us. Not because someone forced us to.

Never give up. You know your child better than ANYONE.

"A child may not always remember what you say, but he will remember how you made him feel."

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W.S.

answers from Atlanta on

Hi, J.. I am a special education teacher in Georgia. No, they cannot make you put your son on meds. I don't know if they have already tried to have him evaluated for special education due to his attention difficulties; if not, they may suggest it at your meeting. Whether or not you approve of this or whether or not he would qualify for the special ed. program, it is against the law for public schools to require your son to be on meds. In fact, I have been told not to request this of parents because, if the parents were smart enough, they would know that if the school says a child needs meds, then the school is responsible for paying for the medication and doctor bills associated with it.

Being a special education teacher who works with children with ADHD, I have seen some students become more successful in school as a result of their meds, but I have also seen those whose meds don't really make a difference. I would have to say that most of my students who achieve success in school, whether they are on meds or not, come from a home environment that is involved, supportive, warm, and caring. It seems like you are this type of parent. There ARE ways for him to be successful without meds.

I don't know many details of your sitatuion. I would suggest that before your meeting you get a copy of your parental rights (that are available from your school's special education department) and be familiar with them. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need any more advice!

W. S.

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D.W.

answers from Atlanta on

Hey J.,
I have not had experience with ADHD, but ou might want to look into natural remedies, holistic medications and even doctors. You might find foods that may help your child and his attention span at school. I am not familiar with the school systems' policies, but they should not be able to force you to medicate your child. They will recommend that you seek treatment for his behavior and give you altermatums, but no demands. That is strictly up to you. That may mean that you will need to find another school, but dealing with his ADHD is priority, not the school. You have to take all of that into consideration, even in your meeting next week. Pray about what you should do and spend some time in research and talk to your son about how he feels and how they make him feel at school. If the teachers and staff are isolating him, then they are in the wrong. But if he is not able to be controlled, then something else needs to happen if he is going to interact with society on a daily basis in a public school environment. I hope that helps.

Good luck on your meeting.

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T.P.

answers from Atlanta on

No, a school system cannot force you to medicate your son, but they also will not be able to educate him if his behavior is interfering. His teachers have the best intentions, as do you, you should all work together to find a solution that will benefit your son (classroom modifications/interventions and possible other meds. you haven't tried). Otherwise, he will only continue to struggle, and believe me - his struggles will get worse as he gets older. Third grade is a transition year where more responsibility is placed on the student, and more and more will be added each year. Hope you and the school can work together and be open-minded for your child's sake - good luck!

Also, no need to pay out of pocket for a psychologist, every school system has their own who do the SAME tests - they are doctors, not teachers, and they report their findings fairly to the parents and teachers and then offer suggestions to help.

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M.F.

answers from Atlanta on

J., my son has adhd and no one can make you give him medication. If he is disrupting the class well he has special needs and they need to work with him and give him more breaks then other children it's in the reading materials most dr's give you about adhd and school. Sometimes medications works great for some kids others not it's the same with any medication. Home schooling may or may not be what you are able to do it is an option, I don't home school my son because I think he needs interaction with others and I dont' think my son would learn as well with me as his teacher. Here's some websites that have helped me in the past adhd.kids.tipod.com and healthyplace.com ...I don't think your son will learn very well in a special ed class they usually have 6 to 8 children of different ages in the class sometimes more and they all have very different special needs and sadly many times (not all) it's more like a child care babysitting day then a learning day for a child. I can say this because I have been there and done that. A child that has problems with sitting still will not get the level of education he should be at if all he has is adhd I also have a dr you may want to call and get an appointment with at least look at her website and consider it Dr. Christine Gustafson ###-###-#### www.gustafsonm-d.com and call Families of children under stress website focus-ga.org they are very supportive and helpful as well and can give advise (they have helped me and my family I consider them angels). I hope you get some info that helps you for someone any of us or a group and are armed with info to help you and your child/family. My best wishes to you, you are their advocate!

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C.H.

answers from Atlanta on

I had the same problem when my son was only 5. He attended two different schools at that age because we moved and both schools wanted the medication. When we moved a third time that school also insisted we have him tested and medicated. All of these schools were private schools so they COULD insist. We were told that if we did not take care of the problem he would have to leave, they had plenty of "normal" children on the waiting list. Needless to say we removed him from that school anyway but we did put him on medication. Initially he too was depressed, etc so the doctors tested different strengths, etc. until we found the right dose. It did not affect his "attitude" he acted like my beautiful little boy but he was able to sit and learn in school. Each year we continued the medications. If a teacher didn't believe in the medication (Christian school) we would take him off, his grades would plummit and the teacher would agree we needed to put him back on. I believe that WITHOUT the medication he would have been a troubled child in school struggling with grades, etc. Instead he was honor roll each year, and graduated with honors and a full scholarship. I pray that later in life there are no health affects because of the childhood medication but I know that without medicating through school his adult life would have been much different. ADHD children are VERY smart. I believe they need a little help to allow there brains to function at the high level they are capable of. His life is/will be much better because we medicated. Of course, there are many who do not agree but I just know this was our experience. I hope this helps.

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L.S.

answers from Athens on

J., I have a step-daughter who has been on adhd meds since she was 6. At 6 yrs. old, she weighed 50 lbs. She wore 6x and 7 in pants. Now at 11 yrs old she only weighs 67 lbs and she only wears a 7-8 in pants. She has hardly grown the last several years. I honestly believe the meds have stunt her growth. She hates the way the meds make her feel and she is so thin you can see her ribs poke thru her shirts. She wants off the meds but her mom won't take her off of them. Over the years she has grown out of hyperactivity. No one just doesn't want to take the time of day to enforce good behavior these days. I hope this helps you in making your decision. As smart as your son sounds the school should give him more advance work, not hold him back saying that he can't take advance classes until next year.

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C.K.

answers from Columbia on

I don't know about this but I do know I would look into changing schools. If you are in the Columbia SC area school choice selections begin today. www.richland2.org to look it up. Contact the School Board, your Congressman, someone who should be able to help. If all else, homeschool. There are some wonderful resources available as well as homeschool network available no matter what state you are in. If you believe in prayer, then have your son pray with you every morning and night-you will see change. I have my 2 yr old pray about his behavior when he's throwing a tantrum. I will look for your solution.

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A.B.

answers from Atlanta on

The school system can't force you to medicate your son and I'm surprised that they are so adament about it. Is his behavior that 'bad' that they can't handle him otherwise? Or is his teacher too lazy to help him learn in an effective manner.

My son is 12 and we just recently put him on ADD medication (a very low dosage of Vyvanse). We were recommended to have him evaluated twice when he was younger and did go to his pedicatrician but it wasn't until he was about to push me over the edge that we decided to try meds. I think other things should be tried first including good parenting and teaching methods (the teaching part might be the issue) and diet adjustments. Hopefully if you're that concerned about what is going into his body, you'll take the time to watch what your son is eating and how it affects him. Our son no longer is allowed chocolate milk, sodas other than Sprite on the weekends, no gummy treats (which is really candy with LOTS of dye), etc. Different things affect different kids but I know this is a big one. Our son always had the most issues at school right after lunch (he always drank chocolate milk!)

It just got to the point for our son that even though he wanted to do good in school, he just couldn't stay focussed long enough to learn and pass his tests. He was getting very discouraged with his school because his grades were so bad. He had managed to keep up before but his school is very academically demanding and he just couldn't 'get by' anymore.

The other thing I would suggest is taking him to a psychriatrist or psychologist of YOUR choosing and someone who specializes in children. Someone who will ask him questions and try to figure out what exactly is going on and not just assume it's ADHD. I think that teachers and school counselers sometimes try to play doctors and diagnose kids even though they don't have the medical education to do so. A psychologist might fit you better since they don't prescribe meds and might not be so willing to just send you off to your ped. who will. There are behavior assessment tests that a psychologist can do but most of the time your insurance will not cover it so just be warned if you go that route, you may have to come out of pocket.

And as a side note, Vyvanse which is the drug my son is taking, is a capsule that can be opened up and dissolved in a drink or on the tongue. And even though our son is on the lowest dosage, we gave him 1/2 the pill for the first week to help him adjust and to make sure it didn't cause any weird physical side affects like heart palpitations. The two side effects our son has is the lack of appetite (like you said, diet pill). We make him eat breakfast and then take the pill and even though he'll eat something for lunch and dinner, about 8:30pm he's all of a sudden starving. We let him eat then but that's also because he's skin and bones and can't afford to lose weight :)

The first few weeks were also a bit rough on his sleeping. He just has a harder time falling asleep. Once he's asleep, he's out for the night. The dr. gave us an allergy pill to give to him but that didn't help so I've switched to Benedryl. He was already taking a Claritin every day so I just stopped that and give him a Benedryl a couple of hours before bedtime since it makes him tired. I figure, at least Benedryl has been around for ages.

Anyway, good luck with all this and keep up posted on the outcome.

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T.S.

answers from Spartanburg on

Public school is not allowed to tell you your child needs medication. This is illegal. They have to be very careful what they say. Only a doctor can diagnose ADHD. There are herbal remedies out there and safe things that you can use if your child is diagnosed with ADHD. I would check into that before I put him on that medicine. Before I was a stay at home mom, I was a teacher and before that a Pharmacist assistant. These drugs are controlled substances that only the pharmacist is allowed to count and bottle. They stayed in a locked drawer and could not be touched by anyone but a pharmacist. So I would definitely think about it long and hard before I put my child on one of these drugs. Check out the alternatives.

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