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If you have a written statement a decree that says you are entitled to a complete file, bring it to the day care and tell them you will wait till they make a complete copy of her file.
my ex and smom take my dd to a daycare facility that she works at when they have her during the weekday (mostly holiday's and summer vacation). my problem is per the daycare they will only give me certian documents, not the entire file which the decree clearly states i have rights to. when i talk to ex about it, his response is "no files to give"
my concern: i like to know where my dd is and know how to contact her if an emergency comes up and i want the files so i know my dd is LEGALLY attending there in case she gets severly hurt or what ever while at the daycare facility.
what do you think
No guys i have not asked this question before. thanks for the advice
i have decided what i will do about it. thanks for the responses
If you have a written statement a decree that says you are entitled to a complete file, bring it to the day care and tell them you will wait till they make a complete copy of her file.
As a licensed childcare provider, the only documents we usually ask for is the paperwork the state requires us to have on file; medical records, emergency contact information, permission to transport/give medicine, and in a case of divorce, the custody agreement, etc. I also know from a liability standpoint, that any child injured in a center/in home childcare during the hours of operation, are covered under their liability insurance. It would become the problem of the center/home, if the child did not have the proper documentation on site.
I agree with Krista P....sounds like it is one of those situations where you are wanting this file for tit for tat purposes. I LOVE the line Judge Judy Sheindlin gives parents in custody/child support battles....You have to love your child more than you hate your ex!
What file are you referring to? Seriously... it's a daycare so they only things they are keeping in a "file" would be copies of her medical exam, vaccines, emergency contacts and other such "business" things.
Is there a specific document that you need? If so, request it. Otherwise, I think you're pulling a "if he has it I want it too" request and insisting that something exists that may not.
Why do you need legal documentation that she attends? Do you expect her to be seriously injured while she's there? Sounds a little suspiscious to me... call the daycare center and request a meeting with the director. Explain the situation, why you need a copy of her registration file and bring your decree. Depending on whether or not the director elects to run it by the attorneys (which she has the right to do), you may need to wait a day or two.
Did you change your screen name?
Daycares don't have top secret files or anything. All they have is a vaccination record of the child and emergency contact info and permission slips.
All you need is the address and phone number of the daycare to contact them should an emergency arise, with your name as a guardian or emergency contact listed. It sounds like you have all that. If you need to know for sure, just go to the place and make sure your name is listed on her record.
Are you extra paranoid for a reason?
What is the exact wording in your divorce papers? Maybe you could just bring THEM with you to the daycare?
You mean your concerned she's not officially registered as a student at this day care, her SM just brings her to work? Yes, I can see how that would a be a concern, and why you would want to view her paperwork to be sure.
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Really? Are you Quite sure you never asked this question before???
Sxxxx G. asks from Tecumseh, OK on November 29, 2010
My ex husband allows his wife whom works for a day care to take my daughter to this facility without proper enrollment info, emergency contact, etc. he does this is on days that is his visitation, but when he has to work knowing good and well i'm off work, the facility does not have my contact info, i don't even know if they have her on the scroll's in case of fire, or any other emergency. I have asked him for a heads up on when he plans to take her in so i can go "scout" them but refuses to keep me informed. he even lied to me over the holiday weekend. told me that she was staying with his mom friday, i had been trying to get a hold of him to take my daughter to see my dying gma, he never responded and just for a few hours, even offered to take her while he was at work so he wouldn't miss any time with her. i called his mom trying to get an answer, and found out she was at this facility with her step mom...he knew i was off work, he knows i don't like it, i even called in a complaint to DHS and NOTHING..i'm really tempted to threaten a lawsuit to the facility that is now allowing this (been told they cannot properly get her on the files without proper pmt-duh i knew this)
just not sure what to do to get this stopped. i didn't go get her friday because i just figured the judge (i'm taking him to court for other matter's he just hasn't gotten the papers yet) can handle it and i knew my showing up demanding to get my daughter would've probably involved the police and then some, not to mention i didn't want to cause a sene in front of my daughter, and i would not have made it to the facility before her step mom got off work
not sure how far i should take it, has this ever happened to you? what did you do-we have joint custody, so my hands are tied somewhat
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Sounds pretty familiar... ;)
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I believe you've asked this question before... no?
I'd produce the decree and give that to the daycare manager or owner. If you believe your dd is attending but not officially enrolled, and that in the event of an injury or something, she would not be covered by whatever emergency policies they have in place for actual enrolled students, then I'd contact the Dept. of Public Welfare, and have them look into this daycare for improper practices.
Maybe you should send or take the daycare a copy of your decree to prove that you DO have right to the file?
This question sounds very familiar.....did you look through the archives?
I agree with KristaP...this question sounds familiar? But what do you need here?
I do home childcare in MN, and a basic file consists of registration page (names, addresses, emergency contact, medical and dental info), permission pages for administiring certain medications, for leaving the property (to go to the park or a walk..I don't transport otherwise), a list of who is authorized to remove the child from my care (usually grandparents, an auntie, etc...if they are not on the list, the child will not leave with them)..immunization page, and a few random county required signed things.
Unless we have a court order document, we can not prevent a parent access to their child. Check with your state on that..and divorce decrees, order of protections, etc are what I mean by that.
The only other thing that might be in a file, esp with a center based or school setting, might be progress reports or observations with samples of their work. I can't imagine anything else being in there.
If she is attending a licensed child care center they have the information needed on file. The most important information being shot records and who can pick up the child. There isn't much else in a child care file.
My files consisted of a manila folder with 3-4 sheets of paper in them. The official shot record, the contract (part time kids and employees don't sign one usually) and an information sheet about the child with the particular information listed before.
If you are needing an attendance record or copies of her coloring/craft papers maybe you could get dad to photocopy them for you.
I understand how hard this must be for you but in reality it's his visit time and since they both work you are going to have to accept they are legally allowed to provide care for her outside of the home so they can keep their jobs. Please try to be a little more understanding and less harsh about managing your ex-husbands visit time.
If the child care center has given you what there is then the only other option you have is to go visit. Be sure you bring you court papers with you so they don't call the police on you for trespassing since they don't know you.
Do you have the name and phone number of the daycare? call them and ask any questions you have. IF they wont answer or you dont know the name that is a problem!
what files do you want? files would just include her last physical date and a form like a child health form and a copy of all her vaccinations.
The only file I think you are allow would be the one for Tax purposes. That states how much you are charged because some states you can deduct that amount. Is that what you are talking about?
Hi,
I am not clear on what information you want that they are not providing?
If she is not registered at that daycare, although frustrating for you, I'm not sure it's your worry. Are you being asked to pay for tuition that you don't think is being charged?
The problem with divorce and joing custody is that we legally have to let the ex make decisions for our kids when they are the custodial parent. What he does with your daughter during HIS time with her, HE is legally responsible for.
If she gets hurt HE would be responsible for getting her care. If HE is letting her be somewhere 'off the books' then HE will be responsible for any issues that arise....
If there is an emergency on your end - CALL HER DAD. You wouldn't circumvent her dad and call the daycare first anyway - that wouldn't be right or responsible of you.
Again - I'm not sure exactly what you are asking......