Apologies - Differences?

Updated on August 03, 2012
C.O. asks from Reston, VA
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This is going to sound confusing...so please bear with me.

let's say you had a conversation with someone via facebook or even e-mail with multiple people being included...even though typed, the words you typed did NOT come out right (you didn't read before you sent, etc.). Another person takes the words, twists them and comes back with something that EVERYONE in the "conversation" is offended by.

The first person who made the mistake - or mis-worded statement - apologized by saying "I am sorry my sentence did NOT come out right...." and goes on to state, simply - what was intended to be said. No one told the person to apologize. After reading the very offensive comment, the person obviously went back and read what they wrote - and apologized.

The other person who offended EVERYONE says "whatever" - really. No kidding. One of the other people in the conversation says to the person and says "it is of my opinion you owe Sue an apology and everyone else. Your words were very mean and hateful."

About 15 minutes later - the person says "I apologize"...

now I'm one that believes it's not really an apology - but one made out of "force" rather than with true meaning behind it. When I hear "I apologize" it sounds fake and forced. When I hear "I am sorry for x y z" I tend to believe the person.

What's your take? Would you feel the "whatever" was wrong and the "I apologize" was forced and therefore not real?

I hope I explained this right and everyone can understand it.

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Yep - Dad - you are right. Some people DO demand apologies. Especially when the person owing the apology KNOWS they did wrong. The person who did the wrong - well - maybe one day they will grow up and see what they did and own it. Then apologize. Why try to make amends (or extend an olive branch) with someone if you aren't even going to apologize for your past behavior?

The "whatever" statement took many in the conversation aback. This coming from a grown male too.

I realize that with social media it IS hard to 'Read' the person's passion, body language, etc. thanks for the clarity that the apology given was forced and not genuine.

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☆.A.

answers from Pittsburgh on

Too hard to say from the vague info given.
Depends...on a LOT.
There can be MULTIPLE reasons for apologies.

Kind of like Sybil, ya know?

I think in what you've mentioned the "I apologize" was more like "didn't mean to tick anyone off" than "I'm truly sorry for what I said and have given it much thought and have completely changed my opinion on the subject" -- a "smoothing of ruffled feathers.
I don't think there's a greater sincerity by using the words "I'm sorry for x y z" rather than "I apologize" at all. Same thing. Same meaning.

You can't DEMAND apologies--if you do, they're not sincere, most likely.

Apologies are for the giver, not the receiver...Psych 101.

Good rule of thumb:

A lways
S ay
S orry

And mean it! Otherwise, don't bother, right?

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T.N.

answers from Albany on

Ok, well my brain burst into flames about half way through this but I get the gist. My guy is The King Of False Apologies.

His words are saying I'm sorry, but his TONE is saying Screw You This Is Stupid I don't Know What Your Problem is.

Then once his TONE is correct he says "I'm sorry IF I...." which is kinda like I WOULD be sorry *IF* I did something to offend but clearly the jury's still out on that fact so it's a big IF.

Poor fella, dunno how he can stand me.

Anyway, I THINK I'm agreeing with you, right?

If not, I DO apologize, and if that's not enough for you, well, whatever.....

Giggle.

:)

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J.S.

answers from Columbia on

Some people demand apologies. I won't name any names, but there is one person on MP who has DEMANDED apologies from me NUMEROUS times.

If I ever felt so entitled to think that someone "owed" me some words - or heck - even asking for them to owe their thoughts so that I'm "satisfied" that they truly mean it - then I need to call my sponsor b/c that's all kinds of second grade screwed up.
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Seems like your SWH is demanding an apology.

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M.L.

answers from Chicago on

Kind of reminds me of when someone says, "I'm sorry if what I said made you feel....." That's not an apology - that's turning it around on the person who is offended. If an apology is not genuine I don't take it as an apology at all.

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H.P.

answers from Houston on

Yeah, I get that, but you can't force a feeling from somebody. All you can do is demand certain treatment/behaviors when relating to you. Keep in mind, though, that not everybody feels the same way about those words, so some people will genuinely apologize using the word "apologize".

Especially since it's all in writing (for future reference if necessary), I would just keep it moving.

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answers from Dallas on

Kind of reminds of when I was a kid, and my mom would say,"now apologize to your sister." I would, but I never meant it. There was no way to make me mean it. I never FELT sorry.

If it was forced, there is no way to make her mean it. Right wrong, real, fake. She doesn't care. (Unfortunately.) Yes, it was fake. Yes, it was forced.

I never did understand baiting someone to apologize. It only makes all involved feel worse, I think.

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M.R.

answers from Chicago on

'Whatever' doesn't even remotely suggest an apology. But asking them further to apologize, IMHO is a waste of time. If they really wanted to apologize, they'd have done it long ago.
I'd offer some kind words to the person(s) who deserve an apology, and be openly cool towards the person who couldn't find the guts to apologize.

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J.M.

answers from Philadelphia on

ugh there was tis bratty kid that always hurt emmy and when his parents rarely asked him to apologize he would say "i appoogize" all cold ..he was only 3!

that wasnt part of your question anyway whenever i hear "i apologize" i think the person either lacks emotions and feels they should appologize or its fake and they are a jerk

WHATEVER! once you pass 16---doesnt your right to say that go away=)

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B.D.

answers from Pittsburgh on

I say take what you can get and move on.

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J.T.

answers from New York on

I Apologize does sound insincere and forced when it comes after someone saying it is owed. The "Whatever" to me conveys an attitude in need of serious adjustment... so in your case, not sure I would believe the apology...

Really, though for me it is all about context and tone. It is one of things I really dislike about social media today though. It is impossible to truly tell what someone means from just their words, body language and tone of voice are a large part of the meaning of what is said and we never know what that is from the written word.

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A.M.

answers from Kansas City on

The statement "I apologize" gets interpreted by me as "Shut the hell up, I don't care".... (includes a "I'm sorry!").

I am with you "I apologize for xyz or I'm sorry for xyz" is a legitimate apology.

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M.M.

answers from Dallas on

You explained it right. I would take it the same you did. The 'whatever' comment is very childish. And the 'I apologize' sounds like an empty offer.

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T.H.

answers from Norfolk on

it's hard to say either way but i don't believe you'll ever know the truth if it was said online and not in person. you have to hear the meaning in their voice to know. even then some a great liers and could just come across sincere. i don't think someone should have to apologize for their thoughts and opinions. yes they can be sorry that you don't agree but to say you are sorry that you feel a certain way isn't logical. we are all free to have our own thoughts and feelings and to make anyone apologize for having them just isn't fair. of course tact is always nice and understanding can go a long way but it goes both ways. everyone seems to disagree with this person but who's to say they aren't the one that's aactually not in the wrong. either way try not to take things so personally and seriously and let others have their own thoughts...it doesn't mean they think any less of you just becaue you don't agree. it's what makes us each unique.

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D.S.

answers from Norfolk on

Hi, Cheryl:
Actually, there is a way to apologize. We were taught to
Say: I apologize for..................(what it is that one is apologizing for)/
Do you accept my apology?

The offended person says, yes or no.
The offending person then asks: Do you need anything?

The offended person says what he/she needs to repair the harm done to them.

We all are affected by what people write on any social network. If we are offended, we need to share that. The offending person needs to apologize to everyone he/she offended.
Thanks for asking.
Resource: www.iirp.edu

D.

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